Dr. Giulia Enders

What's inspired you to do that?

It was the work in the hospital.

After I finished my studies, I went to work in a hospital specialized on gut disorders.

And after a while, I just had to come clear and face reality, which meets you there in the hospital, which was I'm not a good doctor if I only focus on the gut.

I'm missing out on all these connections, on all these other things that influence the gut.

I realized after a while that there was a group of my patients with irritable bowel syndrome where they would sleep poorly.

And I would repeatedly hear this when I was questioning them in the beginning.

And so I got into reading about the brain and sleep, for example.

And I realized, oh, there is a part of sleep that is really important for pain threshold and how much pain we feel.

So this could influence it.

And also the gut homeostasis and how everything's repaired during the night.

In the body, everything is connected.

And in research, we always try to, like, tidy it up and separate it all to have, like, good, nice and clean results.

But you can't do that in the hospital because, you know, there the human is built.

back together again so so yeah and then there were other things like people coming in with belly aches or even appendicitis more often when the air quality was poor in the city i was working in and we had that often because we had lots of cruise ships coming and it was hamburg so you know i started reading about the lung and air quality and this is sort of like how it took off and things kept piling up and made me want to say something again like that felt with the first book

So how has that experience changed the way that you think about, I guess, health and disease?

The way I see the body now, I think, is a bit more sophisticated.

Suddenly, I started to have this respect for other things.

Why are they put in this place?

What are they especially good at?