Dr. Giulia Enders

And how can I actually make use of that in my day-to-day life and really have a more cooperative and appreciative relationship to these organs?

And this has made me, I think, more appreciative, but has also drastically changed what I think I am and what others are.

I think it's also important to just see this miraculous, crazy thing of being alive sometimes.

Just let it shine through a little bit.

That has done that to me.

I love just hearing the enthusiasm, but also you don't sound like a typical doctor.

Like I feel like a typical doctor does like carve this up into pieces, try and identify the one bit that's broken and then say, okay, this is the thing that we need to do in order to.

And that's important too.

And I need to do that too at times, but it took me some time to get to this other thinking.

That's actually why it took me quite a while to write this book.

I really had to learn a different way of thinking, also a bit more associative, I'd say.

When we feel ill or not able to perform as we expected, we often say things like, my body's broken or I'm damaged.

What's your view of that approach?

It's almost always wrong, even with horrible diseases.

And I'm not saying the body doesn't make mistakes.

The body definitely does make mistakes.

It's human after all.

But the way we often describe it is like it's broken or stupid or dumb or aggressive even with the immune system.

You'll often hear in a doctor's office, you know, your immune cells are attacking your own body.

And it sounds in a way a bit stupid and aggressive and unnecessary.