Dr. Giulia Enders

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ZOE Science & Nutrition · How 'boosting' your immune system increases inflammation and 4 ways to support balance instead | Dr Giulia Enders · 7 May 2026 podcast

The thing that is most lodged in my brain is this amazing fact that you said that if you keep drinking sugary drinks, then actually over 20 years, you're basically going to have this higher level of inflammation.

It's going to boost these immune cells.

And actually, you're more likely to get an autoimmune disease like rheumatoid arthritis.

So it's amazing this direct link just from having more sugar.

Diabetes and depression also, by the way.

The other thing I'm really struck by is this idea that the whole language that we use to describe the immune system might be a product of the time when the scientists were first understanding it.

It was like at the time of World War I and World War II.

And so all the focus is on killer cells and thinking about

centuries and things like that.

But actually a huge part of what the immune system is doing is sort of cooperating with these microbes, looking at what's going on.

And actually it doesn't sort of shoot first and ask questions later.

Actually, it's sort of looking at what these bacteria are doing, being quite thoughtful and deciding these responses.

And in fact, the way that you think about it is you think about us as having this microbe cloak around us.

Very few of these bacteria are making us sick, and actually many of them might be helping to look after us, which is a completely different way of thinking about it, which I love it.

Then you talked about rethinking what happens if you're sick.

And so don't think about all your cold symptoms as being caused directly by

this infection.

Actually, this is your immune system helping to look after you.

And that can make you feel better about it.

And that also means be thoughtful before you try and get rid of all the symptoms.

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