Joy Hawkins

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509 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 29 Jul

Joy Hawkins’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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People just aren't talking to their clients enough or asking those questions.

Like we need to actually care about them making more money or they're not gonna want to continue paying us.

Yeah, so I do think sp devily spam has changed.

I will tell you like

And we're not talking about the

Funny, literally this morning I was looking up one of my insurance clients and like there's all these fake lead gen listings.

I'm like, whoa, I haven't seen those in a while.

He's again, I've been working with this guy for like seven years and like they come and go in waves.

And I'm like, man, every single time I'm like spam's dead.

They figure something else out.

I gotta tell you, the people that do Lead Gen, they are the most creative, like, like smart people.

They are always coming up with new ways to get on Google.

Like I have to credit them, man.

They're they're good.

So I think they're smarter than Google.

They're always ahead of Google.

Google

Google knocks them down and they just find something new.

So I don't think you're ever gonna find a world where that doesn't happen.

Um, I do think it is getting harder.

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