Michael Chernow

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1,861 appearances 4 recordings 4 series first heard Dec 2024 last heard 27 Apr

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And then either Donna will put the kids down or I put the kids down. We go back and forth. And then right when we're done with that at like 8.15, the two of us cuddle and watch a show. And we do that until 9.30 and then we go to bed. And like
it's also the other really important piece of that that i think is so small however incredibly significant is touch your partner as often as you can like i make it my i i it is something that i'm cognizant of and i do it purposefully because it me it's important to me but like when i'm sitting next to my wife no matter where I am, I've got my hand on her leg. I've got my hand on her arm.
I've got my hand around my arm around her. I'm holding her hand. I'm touching her. And it doesn't mean that it's like, it's not like some like, you know, freaky deaky shit. It's like those little things. We're together almost 20 years. We're married 17 years. So like that long relationship, that long, like you can easily forget that shit. Like that, like,
oh yeah you're just you have been next to me for the last 17 years like touching you doesn't really like register for me i want my to la i want my marriage to last forever i do and so for me i'm like i'm sitting next to her she's not my friend even though she's my best friend she's my she's my lover she's my wife i'm gonna touch this woman and like connect that way and i think that's so important to say
Little tiny thing. You're sitting next to your partner. Boom, just hand on. That's it. It connects. There's a connection. That connects you two together in like an intimate way. And so we do that. We don't just like watch TV together. Like we touch each other and then we go to bed. And it's like, that's the routine. And it's awesome, you know? And I just shared about that because I think...
I was listening to a podcast. I was listening to the Jordan Harbinger podcast. He had this divorce lawyer on from New York.
That guy?
Oh, really? I love that guy's podcast. I listen to his podcast.
Awesome. I mean, it was wonderful to hear that guy because, you know, the way he sort of describes this business relationship, marriage, it would be like if somebody looked at you and said, hey, invest in this business, 60% chance it's going to fail. It could make you feel awesome, but you could lose everything if it doesn't work. But give me all your money. You'd be like, no.
Like, I'm not going to do that. You know, like, it doesn't make sense. And that's like how he describes what marriage is, right? It's like, that is the deal. You literally give up all your money, everything you own, and you have faith that this person and you are going to be able to live out the rest of your life without fucking hating each other. And knock on wood, like...
So far, this is the longest and most successful relationship I've ever had in my life with my wife. And like I have zero interest in it going anywhere. But like listening to that podcast was just like it was like it was real. You know, I think the majority of marriages really, really are tough. And I think there's so many different things that go into what make it successful.
And if you don't have little taps on the shoulder or reminders like the one I just did on social, like, hey, you're sitting next to your partner. Like you don't you could just sit there and not touch them. Or that little touch could be the difference of like how you feel about that person that day subconsciously or not.
You know, and I really do think that those little things make a big difference in marriage, you know.
I live further than, I'm like out of New York now.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Right. Yeah, I think... I mean, the elephant in the room, right? Like, long-term relationships, it's no surprise that, like, the sex is not nearly as intense as it was for the first two to five years, right? Specifically the first two years.
You know, like, you're, like, you're just ferocious and wanted, like, wanted all the time.
If there is a sexual chemistry between the two of you, and there is between Donna and I, however, like anything, once you get used to something, it's hard to keep it exciting. It's hard to just be like, I can't wait. Totally. But... A few things. One, I will say, for us, communication is just even more important than routine. Communication is paramount.
And that doesn't mean like, yes, it means telling your partner you love them. I'm talking about the shit that is hard to talk about. I'm talking about, like, there are people that go months and months in a relationship long-term that are not having sex and just don't ever talk about it. Ever. It's just like, and they both know that, like, this isn't good. Like, we should be having sex.
But, like, once you, I think once you get out of it, because I've been there. There has been times where Donna and I have had to check each other and be like, hey, like, it's been, like, six weeks since we've had sex. We gotta go. Um, and that, yeah. And that also isn't like amazing, right? Where you're like, we got to do this just because we know it's the right thing to do.
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