Roxane Gay

And so, yeah, sure, you can be a part of ICE and you can continue to terrorize this community and kidnap people, but you're not going to be well-rested.

And

I love that someone came up with that because it's so elegant and so simple.

And you know that when it happens, those men of ICE are, because it is a vocational program for men, they are probably so irritated.

And that brings me a small amount of, I don't think joy is the word, but satisfaction.

No.

It isn't.

They just have a new way of gathering.

The manosphere has always existed.

Congress...

It's everywhere.

And the army.

The White House.

Truly.

That's just off the top of my head.

It has always existed.

What is particularly troubling and unique about the current moment is that they have such easy access to one another and that there are no limits.

because they tend to find themselves on these forums where there is no moderation, where they are openly allowed to talk about really virulent misogyny, which whatever, but then also violence against women, violence against people they disagree with.

They have created their own vernacular to be able to better communicate amongst themselves about their anxieties and their grievances.

And so they have more reach than before.