Sawyer (Mel's daughter)
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186 appearances
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Apr 2025
Sawyer (Mel's daughter)’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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You don't do that. And then it's a total relationship like therapy session between the two of us where we end up crying and hugging and then getting back to work. And then... If it was a good day, we have a glass of wine. If it was a bad day, we have a glass of wine. And then we go to bed. And then we literally, every single day, Monday through Sunday, that was our routine.
I think that also using the Let Them Theory in this book writing process made this book so much better because you let me write from a 20s perspective and I let you, even though I can't relate, from a 50s perspective. And so I feel like this book has so much relatable stories and it reaches so many different age groups, mine, yours, everyone's in between, that...
it actually brought the finishing product to be so much better. And I think that just having both of our writing styles woven in throughout of it is really amazing.
100%. And I think that also you, I noticed that you had done let them a lot with me when I was freaking out about things that you didn't think were a big deal and vice versa. And I want to say two things. I want to say one piece of advice of another way that you can use let them and let me. And I want to say one warning that I experienced during this process is
Oh, so the first is that what I love about the let them theory is that you can vocalize it. And so I feel like in a lot of our conversations at the end of the day, mom, you would I would say to you, I am trying to let you have your process and I'm trying to let you creatively write about this topic. And at the same time, I need you to let me.
create these briefs and create this, this, because this is how I think. And otherwise, I don't understand what you're doing. And so I feel like it's a tool for you to approach a conversation as well as saying it to yourself.
Whereas you can go up to your loved one or whoever you are hoping to communicate better with or build your relationship stronger and say, I am trying to let you do X. And at the same time, I need you to let me do X.
And then the warning that I will say is I found myself throughout the process whenever you and I would get into it a little bit that I would always let them, and I would always use that tool, but I rarely followed up with let me. And let me explain.
So you would say, I need to do it this way, I need this from you, I need this, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, X, Y, Z. And my initial response, I would tell myself, let them, do not react, do not play into it, do not try to be right, And as a result, my response was always silence. And I would always just let you go and let you do your process.
And I would sit back and feel very sad and emotional and left out and felt like you weren't listening to me. And as a result, my emotions would bubble up and bubble up and then I would explode.
And I think what was really crucial and that I really noticed is that whenever I use let them with you, I always had to follow it up with let me, which is don't react, but collect my emotions, take a breath, say let them, let mom, let her do her process. Instead, let me communicate how this makes me feel or communicate how
How her not using the organization or the this or disregarding the month's worth of work that I've done and creating something brand new is making me feel.
And what's so beautiful about the let them theory is the fact that it's a gift to someone else as well. How so? I think that all I want is for people to use the let them theory on me. I want people to say, let Sawyer do her thing. I want people to say, let Sawyer be who she is. I want you to say, let Sawyer want to organize and have her OCD and let me be who I am without trying to control me.
And so I think that our relationship improved because we both were using let them on each other. And so I think that The Let Them Theory improves relationships because it's not only when you start using it, the first step in proving and breaking this toxic dynamic.
But I think it's such a great gift to share with other people and to share with your loved ones because when they start using it on you, you're going to be like, hallelujah. Hallelujah, girl. Keep using it. It's so amazing. And it's great.
I think my story about you was that you don't care about me and that you only care about work and my siblings and... I still hate hearing it, even though I know it's not... It's not my current story.
That... I think my current story is that you've gone above and beyond and worked your ass off your entire life to provide for us and to show up for us and to love us in so many ways and just be the best role model in the world. And I think you're the best mom ever.
The last thing I'm going to say is something I'm really excited about is that you and I not only are going to have this tool for the rest of our life, but we're going to use this tool for the rest of our life. And I am so confident it's going to continue with every use. that our relationship will get better and better.
And the fact that we have this book and this tool that I can give to my own kids to improve, I'm 25, I don't have kids, but eventually. Do you use it with your significant other? Yes. Every day. Does he use it with you? I hope so. But he will be the first to be getting the book. So I'm very excited to gift it to him so he can use the let them theory on me.
I love you, mom.
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