Bernie Sanders Rips DC Corruption, The Israel Lobby, & Reveals How Billionaires Buy Politicians

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Who is Bernie Sanders and why is he important?

Unknown Speaker 2 0:00
What's up, everybody? Welcome to Flagrant. Our guest today is one of the only people in politics who hasn't traded conviction for convenience. And somehow, he is still here.

What impact did the Dodgers' move have on Bernie Sanders?

Unknown Speaker 2 0:09
For decades, he has stood in the middle of the storm, unbought, unbossed, untethered, saying what so many were too afraid to say, that working people deserve dignity, that healthcare is a right, that the system isn't broken, it was built to screw you over. He has been mocked, sidelined, betrayed, and that's just by his own party. And still, he shows up- Not for power, not for fame, but because he actually gives a damn. In a country drowning in cynicism, he made people believe, maybe for the first time, that someone in Washington was actually fighting for them. So please give a warm, flagrant welcome to the last honest man in politics from Brooklyn, New York, Senator Bernie Sanders. Hey! All right, let me get you out of here. That's it!
Unknown Speaker 4 0:52
That's it!
Unknown Speaker 2 0:55
I have a question, okay? Listen, and this is probably a sensitive topic. It might be too soon, actually. It actually might be too soon, okay? So if you don't want to answer, I totally understand. In 1958... I think you know where this is going. Going? When Walter O'Malley. Oh, God. I know. I know. This one cuts deep. When he moves the Brooklyn Dodgers to Los Angeles, and he does it for corporate greed. Absolutely. And profits. And he doesn't care about the community that built up that team. That's right. It broke a young Brooklyn boy's heart, probably many. Yep. It seems like, and it could be a coincidence, that ever since then you've had it out for the billionaires.
Bernie Sanders 1:35
Is that where it all started? I'll tell you something. Two things. There was a joke going around my neighborhood, Flatbush, and what it said, the three worst people in modern history were Hitler, Stalin, and Walter O'Malley. And not necessarily in that order. That was a joke. But, you know, what I did learn. You're kind of joking about the question. Yeah. But I'll tell you something. When you grow up as a kid, you have a thing called the Brooklyn Dodgers. Of course. Yeah. So when you're a kid, the idea that it could be moved someplace else. When you're a kid, you can't. That is privately owned. Yeah. run for profit, and then it can be moved to California, was literally beyond your comprehension, beyond my comprehension. So it was a real shock.
Bernie Sanders 2:25
And if you're asking me, did that have an impact on my political views? It did, actually. It did. Because the Dodgers were a cohesive force in Brooklyn, bringing people together, Jackie Robinson, et cetera, et cetera. So yeah, that had an impact on me.
Unknown Speaker 2 2:41
Really? So it all starts there. I don't say it all starts there, but...
Bernie Sanders 2:45
I learned something from that. But again, I mean, you think about it. He was something so important. Yeah. There's so many people. This guy didn't give a damn. To make more money, let's go to California.
Unknown Speaker 2 2:55
And was it as simple as that? Like, there was just a better deal out there?
Bernie Sanders 2:58
Sure. There was a huge market out there in California, right? Right. Everybody, they can make more money. I think he starts baseball on the West Coast. Yeah, he and the Giants guy. That's right. That's right.
Unknown Speaker 2 3:06
And was it, I don't know. I mean, we don't have to get too much into it, but I heard Robert Moses was pushing back a lot on rebuilding of a stadium. That could be bullshit. I don't know, but. It doesn't matter.
Bernie Sanders 3:14
That raises a whole other issue. But, you know, sports and professional sports and all that stuff. But, yeah, it was a big deal.
Unknown Speaker 3 3:21
That's your first exposure to corporate sports.
Bernie Sanders 3:22
And, you know, what you're seeing today, and it's something we haven't looked at enough, it's something I want to, is it hasn't really changed. You have the, what is the function of professional sports? All of these teams are owned by billionaires. Yeah. And if Baltimore doesn't give you enough money, you're going to move someplace else. And the matter, you know, you break the hearts of kids, nobody cares. Yes.
Unknown Speaker 2 3:41
Can I ask you a question about that? Like, why is it the city puts up money for these new stadium builds and we don't get any of the equity in the team? That's very good.

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