MKUltra: CIA Quest For Mind Control Never Ended, They Only Changed The Name w/ Shane Cashman, Mark Groubert & Christina Bobb – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 587
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What was Project MKUltra and its purpose?
All right, a lot to get into today. We're starting with Mark Robert. I'm in Vienna, Austria now. We've sort of wired ourselves together, and I think we're going to pull this off. And I thought I needed to talk to somebody that's friendly, and Mark is a friend. We've got a lot to get into. He wants to talk about the supremacy of dogs. It'll make sense when we talk. Then I've been away for a while and I was confused about a lot of things. Pulling away from the United States and looking back stateside, you sort of see things a little differently. And one of the things I could not understand is why the supremacy clause was not holding. So I said, please, I want to talk to a lawyer. Christina Bob is going to give me that.
And in other podcasts last week, we ended up talking a lot about MKUltra. So I brought Shane Cashman in to get deeper into that topic. A lot to get into today. We'll start up right after this. Our laws as it pertained to substances are draconian and bizarre. A psychopath started this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor. Where the hell do you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveline all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat.
If you have trouble, you can't stop and you want help stopping, I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say.
All right, as I said, I'm in Vienna, Austria. I want to ask Caleb a quick question. Is the sound situation working? Yes, oh yeah, you sound great.
Do we get Susan's mic? Yeah, you sound fine.
How did MKUltra's methods affect its subjects?
Yeah, as long as Susan's muted. Except I just missed the camera.
My computer's sort of balanced here. So what I want to explain is why we're here. I think I had mentioned it in previous episodes. How's the camera angle, okay, Caleb?
Oh yeah, I'll adjust it.
All right. We had a dear family friend, someone who worked for us for over 35 years. She actually helped us raise our kids. She was a Polish woman. I'm hearing now her Susan's Oh, my goodness. Okay, so we're in a hotel room trying to pull this off. She worked for us for years, and she had a stroke about three months ago. And as soon as she got sick, she announced she wants to go back to her homeland in Poland, be with her son and daughter and sisters. And we immediately said, we will take care of that. We'll get you there. but in the meantime i had to get her to work through the kaiser system which was hell um some of what they did was excellent some of it was unspeakably incompetent as far as i'm concerned but i was there supervising you know pushing things along and we did get her placed and rehabilitated and she uh she went from bedridden in a diaper hemiplegic to uh independent walking still some hand problems actually it's her right hand speech all back cognition all back
daily activities you know toiletry showers all that she handles on her own so she's going to be living independently about an hour outside of warsaw which was a warsaw was an incredible i recommend it most highly the polish are wonderful the city is coming on so strong i i hear that trump wants them to join the g20 they're going so quickly uh it makes you feel when you see the extraordinary ability of this culture and these people you just think oh my god what What were we doing in World War II? Which makes me think also about what we are doing now. uh and i want mark robert to explain a little bit that to me so uh again on the way home the only way we could get a ticket uh was to go through vienna so we're in vienna and then we're going to be going home so you can follow uh mark on uh x lord buckley also uh x america's untold stories which is his podcast uh the book is rehab nation inside the secret world of celebrity drug rehabs he and i have talked about this topic and we talked about you know unforeseen
celebrity catastrophes that have come across our media landscape recently.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What was Project MKUltra and its purpose?
0:03–1:46
2
How did MKUltra's methods affect its subjects?
1:46–4:31
3
What are the ethical implications of MKUltra's experiments?
4:31–7:19
4
How did MKUltra influence modern mind control techniques?
7:19–9:24
5
What parallels can be drawn between MKUltra and current societal issues?
9:24–13:07
6
How did the guests relate MKUltra to current political climates?
13:07–15:49
7
What insights were shared about the role of media in shaping public perception?
15:49–18:45
8
How do the guests envision the future regarding government transparency and accountability?
18:45–1:27:44
Speakers
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