WarRoom Battleground EP 938: Fruits of the INVASION: Civil War Coming To The UK And Democracy Now In Danger In Spain

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What does the 'primal scream of a dying regime' refer to?

Steve Bannon 0:02
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Unknown 0:24
And where do people like that go to share the big lie? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.
Ben Harnwell 0:54
Friday 30th of January and Nodomini 2026. Ben Harnwell here at the helm joining you as usual on a Friday evening to break down in a little more detail some of the things that we get to discuss, especially on Get Up during the week. And one of the great things I enjoy doing on the show is bringing back guests personally. Back by popular demand. And that's what we're going to be doing today. We've got Professor David Betts, who is a professor of war in the modern world at King's College London. You might remember, folks, he was back on before Christmas, the show, discussing his particular thesis, which has had a huge deal of resonance, especially in the UK, that we're heading towards civil war. All the signs are there.
Ben Harnwell 1:43
And as an expert... in war in the modern world. He's certainly someone who knows what those science would be. And he's had a couple of articles as well in the peer-reviewed journal Military Strategy magazine, which we'll be distributing out on social media. Professor Betts, thanks for coming back on the show. Now, you said recently that you think in the UK we might be seeing something Like Belfast during the troubles, the situation for our American audience, the historic troubles between Protestants and Catholics, the sectarian problems there, which were horrific, not only for Northern Ireland, the Irish Republic, and also for the UK. and violence I think that most people will be familiar with, even if they're not particular au fait with the granular details of what happened in the 60s and 70s, 80s in the UK.
Ben Harnwell 2:43
And you've also said that we could be potentially seeing a situation, now this would be more familiar to an American audience, Baghdad. around 2008 or 2010 and you've suggested that largely urban areas will be seeing people essentially fortifying their neighbourhood for protection. Those are very provocative and interesting statements and I very much agree with them, but it's unusual to hear, to see a British academic suggesting these things out loud. Could we start off, could you describe in a little more detail what you meant with that comparison?
Professor David Betts 3:31
Okay, so I imagine there will be two vectors of the civil conflict, which I imagine one is essentially between what in the current British lexicon is referred to usually as the kind of anywheres versus somewheres. These are essentially elite versus street or mob versus blob. You have a essentially one vector of the conflict which has the nature of a peasant rebellion in which the mass of the population, which feels that it has been betrayed by its own elite, seeks to punish that elite and to bring it back into line with what it thinks is the kind of traditional rules of the game. That is what I mean when I invoked the image of the Northern Ireland Troubles, which is to say a kind of conflict which is characterized by chronic low-grade violence, assassinations, kidnappings, demonstrative beatings, things like that.
Professor David Betts 4:47
The other vector of the conflict is intertribal, and that is essentially between the native population, which is rapidly coming into a sense of appreciation of itself as a political community in line with the the rules of identity politics like every other community. And it's a conflict with more recent arrivals in the country, so with the non-native population, which is increasingly concentrated in enclaves. And so you have basically these two vectors.

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