JTP: Rays Check-In, Eric Hartman & What’s Happened to Toronto?

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Previously titled “JTP: Rays Check-In, Eric Hartman & What’s Happened to Toronto?” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 2, 2026

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How dire are the Blue Jays’ playoff odds and trade‑deadline options two weeks out?

Blake Murphy 0:19
Well, first series out of the break did not go the way the Toronto Blue Jays wanted. Entering that series six games under .500 and a couple games out of a wild card spot was get-busy-living time, and the Blue Jays did not do that. They dropped two of three to the White Sox, 12-4 on Friday in an ugly one. They win a 1-0 nail-biter on Saturday and then get blanked on Sunday, 3-0. So the Jays find themselves today two weeks out from the trade deadline. Seven games under .500 in last in the American League East. And now, four and a half games out of a wild card spot. And... Said it. We are two weeks out from the trade deadline, and the conversation today and the conversation for the rest of this week, unless the Blue Jays surprisingly turn things around and find that urgency and sweep a Tampa Bay Rays team that has often had their number, the conversation is going to shift more and more to either do they sell or do they do some sort of hybrid deadline.
Blake Murphy 1:17
Ben Nicholson-Smith with a good piece up at Sportsnet.ca looking at some of those possible hybrid approaches this morning. Also featuring Ben Nicholson-Smith, there is a new episode of At The Letters Up. But don't go listen to that until after we do a pseudo At The Letters here. Arden Zwelling in studio with me for the first hour. Arden, how we doing, buddy? Good morning, Blake. What's going on? Not much, man. I wish this was a, hey, they swept and they showed proof of concept. And what do they add? I like doing the buy part of trade deadline fortnight here more than the sell side. But let's start big picture here. How are you feeling about where the Blue Jays find themselves this morning? Again, four and a half games back of the wild card.
Blake Murphy 1:56
And maybe just as importantly as the number of games, the number of teams they would have to jump between now and the end of September.
Arden Zwelling 2:02
Yeah, the math has gotten really difficult. You don't want to entirely write it off. There's still a possibility that they go on a six, eight, ten game winning streak. Teams do that. We haven't seen the Blue Jays do it. Sure yeah I think the Orioles have won seven in a row that's kind of part of what's made the calculus so difficult is that the Red Sox went from being out of it and we're trying to figure out where Sonny Gray is going to get traded to to I mean having a really strong playoff odds right now and the Orioles getting hot as well has been very problematic for the Blue Jays so instead of the Red Sox being that team that you're writing off in the wildcard race now the Blue Jays are kind of that team which is not where you want to be so I think Fangraphs had it at what 14% playoff odds this morning feels about right there's probably about a 14% chance that they go on the like 8-2 run that they'd have to go in the next 10 in order to justify buying and turn this thing around but I think the overwhelming odds and the very likely probability is that they go like 500 over their next 10 and end up selling at the deadline
Blake Murphy 3:10
Yeah, and obviously we've talked a lot this year about, oh, the American League isn't that good. You don't have to be a 90-win team to win. This isn't 2021 where you can be on the outside looking in winning 90-plus games. This is going to be a weaker final spot. Probabilistically, some teams were going to get good. If you have eight teams all hanging around 500, some were going to have a good second half, some were going to have a bad second half and create some separation there. So as it stands today, the Red Sox are actually in a wildcard spot. The Guardians are a game up on them in the second wildcard spot. And then the Mariners, Orioles, Twins, and Astros. and Tigers are all either tied or ahead of the Blue Jays.
Blake Murphy 3:49
So this is not you have to be five games better than the Red Sox from here. This is you have to be five games better than the Red Sox and four games better than the Mariners and three games better than the Orioles and Twins and so on and so on. Arden, you mentioned the – or we mentioned the Fangraphs playoff odds there.

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