In 2023, Joe Gow, the long-serving chancellor of the University of Wisconsin-La Crosse, began posting pornographic videos featuring him and his wife, revealing a double life the couple had long kept hidden. This revelation ultimately cost him his job. In this episode we visit Joe and his wife, Carmen Wilson, at their home to hear their side of the story. This episode contains references to pornography and sex and may not be suitable for younger listeners. For a transcript of this episode: https://bit.ly/campusfiles-transcripts To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
What is the backstory of Joe Gow and Carmen Wilson?
But as you can hear, Joe's wild idea had legs.
I see you're very hands-on. I am very hands-on. I would know. Right?
What is the crew saying? Are they saying, who are you shooting this for? Or is it kind of an understood thing that people shoot boutique porn for themselves?
I think we were a very unusual couple for them. And the cooking piece, I think they enjoyed that because it was something different than what they typically do.
Some people, they don't cook at all. Other people, like Nina Hartley, who's a legendary figure, she was just all, oh, I love to cook and let's talk food and everything like that. And one of the people, a guy named Damon Dice, he actually had a culinary arts degree from a school. And so he was all about, let me get in there and chop up stuff with you.
And I think for everybody, the food piece was unusual in a fun way. Yes.
In a way, and I hope this isn't dismissive, but it sounds like you were cosplaying at being porn stars.
I don't find that dismissive.
No, I'll take it.
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