A Knight in Shining Shaun-the-Sheep-T-Shirt | The Thai Cave Rescue (Part 1)
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What is the background of the Thai Cave Rescue story?
Welcome back to Finn vs. History.
Joining me is Horatio Gould. Horatio!
It's an underwater hum, actually.
Well, yes, because this, listeners, viewers, this is one of the greatest things that's ever happened. This is the big one, I'd say. I'm fired up for this.
I've been fired up for this from the start. I've been trying to get this in the calendar for months.
This is an academic discussion and a deep dive, dive being the opposite word, on the Thai cave rescue of 2018.
How did the boys end up trapped in the cave?
Fuck me. I mean, look, 2018, that's arguably too early to be history.
Well, I think a lot of our viewers will not like that we're doing something for 2018 because they will remember how shit their lives were in 2018. They like escapism. I could have been someone else in 1943. But in 2018, you were still a fat guy. You were still a comic book guy. You were still 3D printing swords.
And you still were a virgin. But this is a great story for the 3D printing swords, the Virgin, the Autist.
What challenges did rescuers face during the operation?
This is a great tale of overcoming your shit personality and becoming one of the great heroes.
No, no, no, they haven't overcome it.
They've just weaponised it. They've used your shit personality.
It's the one time where you were the centre of attention. And rightly so.
And rightly so. Rightly so. We must reiterate, this is one of the most heroic things that's ever happened.
And it's fascinating because you think about, I think this will be seen as like big history.
Who were the key figures involved in the rescue?
I think it's underrated. A long time to come. There was the film, there was a documentary, but I feel it's not part of the, I don't know, societal vernacular.
It's because it's too recent for us to, you know, we don't even really know how COVID will be remembered. Sure. Will COVID be remembered like Spanish flu where it's like, who gives a fuck? I mean, tens of millions of people died, but Spanish flu was just a sort of expansion pack to World War I.
Like who cares? Yeah, right.
Who cares?
What role did technology play in the rescue efforts?
You know, like millions of people died. But ultimately you're like, COVID may be the similar if what's happening now is World War III or whatever, you know. But this, this is like the Titanic, except it's in an era where technology has advanced that they actually saved people. You know, it's not a disaster.
Yes. It's a victory. It's a victory, but it's also, I guess, What I like, there's that Ron Howard film. Have you seen the film they made of it? I've seen all the films.
How did the international community respond to the crisis?
Yeah, and what I liked about the film is it had very little style to it. They did not have any cinematic flares. There wasn't this rich score. No. It was just trying to make it look as close to what happened as possible.
Which was because you... Right then.
Because you don't need any other ingredients. Because if someone wrote this story, you'd think it was ridiculous. A Mission Impossible script wouldn't come up with something like this. The main thing you have to get across is the fact that this all happened.
What were the emotional impacts on families and rescuers?
It's absolutely mental.
This is Francis Bourgeois as Ethan Hunt.
This is France.
Wow!
What came across watching all the stuff about it is it's like the British dad as a thing that has been stuck in its cage for so long. Since the Falklands. Since the Falklands, right? That was one of the last times that they got a run out and it just feels like such a caged animal. You know, awkward at Christmas, going off to the shed. There's nowhere to run free.
What lessons can be learned from the Thai Cave Rescue?
It's like going to... It's like when you see like a, you know, like killer whales sometimes in shopping malls. You know, you've seen... this is what their life is like. But suddenly, like Free Willy, they are set free.
Normal life is like a zoo. And you're sad that these great beasts are locked up. And then suddenly, Rick Stanton is let out into his element.
Rick and John. We all know Ricks and Johns. They're everywhere.
I'm related to some Ricks and Johns.
Of course. My uncle Paul is a Rick.
My uncle John just will not leave his study. Will not leave a study. And he's apparently working.
Imagine if he got the opportunity to save 14 Thai boys. Incredible.
Absolutely incredible.
I genuinely find it quite moving because I guess you know all these men.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the background of the Thai Cave Rescue story?
0:02–0:39
2
How did the boys end up trapped in the cave?
0:39–1:09
3
What challenges did rescuers face during the operation?
1:09–1:34
4
Who were the key figures involved in the rescue?
1:34–2:02
5
What role did technology play in the rescue efforts?
2:02–2:30
6
How did the international community respond to the crisis?
2:30–2:57
7
What were the emotional impacts on families and rescuers?
2:57–3:25
8
What lessons can be learned from the Thai Cave Rescue?
3:25–54:23
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