TPP 368: Autum Romano on the Safe and Sound Protocol & Nervous System Regulation
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Full-Tilt Parenting: Strategies, Insights, and Connection for Parents Raising Neurodivergent Children
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What is the Safe and Sound Protocol and how does it work?
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Maybe it's Maybelline. We have different windows of tolerance for different things, but that's what SSP does is it widens your window of tolerance. It kind of changes the way that the world is landing on you, if that makes sense. You know, we think about stress. Stress isn't good or bad. What we want to know when we talk about heart rate variability, that's a measure of how is your body responding to stress. and be flexible or is it not? And a lot of that has to do with how our vagus is functioning. And so SSP is just, it's a huge support for the nervous system through the auditory system.
If I told you there was a passive intervention that could help your kiddo and your family increase the window of tolerance and the way the world is received, would you believe me? Well, today I'm sharing a conversation on exactly that. It's called the Safe and Sound Protocol. And it's essentially a therapeutic listening program designed to support emotional regulation and neuroception. I was first introduced to SSP by a therapist our family was working with, and I wanted to know more about how it works and how it can support kids who have what Dr. Mona Delahook refers to as a less sturdy nervous system platform. I reached out to educator, author, and body worker Autumn Romano to join me for this conversation as she's passionate about nervous system regulation as a foundation for transformative whole health.
Autumn, who is also neurodivergent and twice exceptional, is known for her intuitive healing approach. She recently collaborated with Dr. Stephen Porges on a case study for his upcoming book on the benefits of the safe and sound protocol. And last year, she published her own children's book called Body Wisdom and the Polyvagal Theory, which introduces polyvagal theory in an easy to understand way. In this conversation, we talked about what neuroception is and why it's critical to helping our kids develop that felt sense of safety, as well as what the safe and sound protocol actually is. Autumn explains how it essentially repatterns the brain's nervous system through listening, creates a safe space for brain and body integration, and leads to impactful, long-lasting results.
This is a fascinating conversation about polyvagal neuroception and nervous system support that definitely left me wanting to know and experience more. I hope you get a lot out of it.
Hey, Autumn, welcome to the podcast.
Thanks for having me. I'm so delighted and thrilled to be here.
Awesome. Good. I love having guests on the show who are delighted and thrilled to be here. That's a great way to start. I would love if you could take a few minutes and tell us more about yourself. I've already read your formal bio, but give us your mission, your personal why, what you're really excited about and passionate about in the work that you do.
Thank you. Okay, well, body. Always the body. I started my training and then career in body work, started with massage therapy 28 years ago. So I was in high school and unsatisfied doesn't even quite capture it. I wanted something different. I wanted something more. And before there was concurrent enrollment, I guess created my own concurrent enrollment and went to massage school my senior year of high school. And was so in love with the body and its complexity, its intelligence. And that's just never stopped for me. You know, you weave in my own understanding of what it means to be neurodivergent. I'm still... totally trying to understand my own individual neurodivergent and where that fits in the scope of my family of origin, the family I've created, always learning about that.
I was identified as gifted as a third grader, but then apparently took myself out of gifted and talented.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the Safe and Sound Protocol and how does it work?
0:00–6:04
2
How does neuroception influence a child’s sense of safety?
6:04–11:31
3
Why is co‑regulation essential when supporting neurodivergent families?
11:31–18:55
4
How can parents create a customized environment for nervous‑system regulation?
18:55–28:03
5
What are the practical steps for implementing the Safe and Sound Protocol at home?
28:03–42:28
Speakers
1 identifiedMore from Full-Tilt Parenting: Strategies, Insights, and Connection for Parents Raising Neurodivergent Children
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