In Search of Reasonable Doubt: S1-E5

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What are the key themes of the trial?

Paula Borrows 0:00
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Law and Crime Network 0:10
This is a Law & Crime Network presentation.
Alina Burroughs 0:13
This podcast explores themes of violence and death and contains harsh language. Courtroom testimony has been edited for clarity and time. Please listen with care.
David Yannetti 0:26
During the time that you were on scene and you heard Karen Reid screaming and yelling in this distraught and hysterical manner, you never once heard her say, I did it, correct? I did not.
Ted Daniel 0:39
They said that they felt like they didn't have probable cause to go into the home and conduct a search, but they said that they didn't see anything out of the ordinary in at least the foyer area or where they entered and spoke to some of the people there.
Officer Mullaney 0:55
Do you think it's standard practice for a police department to borrow red solo cups from a neighbor to gather evidence?
Lieutenant Gallagher 1:02
Of course not. Nothing about the scene was standard.
John Smith 1:05
So we don't know if this is homicide or an accident at this point. And if we can't determine the manner of death, how do we charge somebody with it?
Paula Borrows 1:15
From Law & Crime, I'm Paula Borrows, and this is Karen. Outside Norfolk County Superior Court, on the brisk morning of April 29, 2024, a massive crowd was forming. The Free Karen Reid Movement, sequestered to their sanctioned area, were gathered, sporting pink shirts and holding handmade signs showing their support on this fateful spring day, the first day of Karen Reid's trial.
Expert Witness 1:43
We are fighting a fight to help free someone that's innocent. Karen could be any single one of us. She's just a normal person. She's getting blamed for something she didn't do. She could be you. She could be her. She could be me. Karen Reid could be any one of us. The only difference is I wouldn't have the backing. I'd be in jail convicted and put away wrongfully if it was me because I wouldn't be able to afford this. And we are everyday people. Take the time to look into all the documents in court, all the motions, all the findings, all of that. And then you're going to come out of there going, what in the world is going on in Massachusetts, the birthplace of America? What is going on here?
Expert Witness 2:26
A woman's being railroaded and framed for a murder she didn't commit. And you can look at the evidence there. You have people here that are varying from school age children that are learning civics right now because of this, all the way up to people in their retirement right now. All walks of life. You have people that are probably waitresses, garbage collectors, PhD people. You got everybody. This is what America is. We're in Massachusetts, the foundation of America. This is everybody. We are here of our own free will, our own minds. We made our decisions by the receipts that Turtle Boy brought up. And that's why we're here. Let's get it factually straight. This is not a movement of we do not back the blue. We do not like police officers. Absolutely not.
Expert Witness 3:13
There's wonderful, good police officers out there. And then there's terrible ones. This isn't fixing a pocket ticket for Uncle Joe. This isn't, oh, aunt whatever drank a little bit too much, we're gonna drive her home, you know? This is a murdered police officer, and the facts of the case are showing that Karen Reid is getting railroaded in his murder.
Paula Borrows 3:37
Inside the cramped, wood-paneled courtroom, a jury of 12 was seated, six women and six men, holding the fate of one of their peers in their hands. Judge Beverly Cannone opened the day emphasizing that the future of the defendant, Karen Reid, hung in the balance, and that their attention to every detail would be crucial to bringing about justice in this case, however they interpret justice.
Katie McLaughlin 4:04
You folks are the most important people in this courtroom. You determine the facts of this case. You are the sole and exclusive judges of the facts. You alone determine what evidence to believe, how important any evidence is that you do believe, and what conclusions all the believable evidence leads you to.

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