Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast
Ep 604 - Tyler Gerben (feat. Steve Gerben, Dan Soder, Billy & Spud)
20 Mar 2026
Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Hey guys, we're here. We're live from the fucking the manosphere. We do have the chessboard out to show everybody. This is the premium subscription. This is what we do, dude.
You gotta get them in the telegram.
Me and Spud come down here and sit silently and play chess for hours. And then we have threesomes.
me and spade split with all these girls with spud tattoo on them yeah they're fucking main people have to be like 13 year olds because if you like could actually sell multiple chicks or a dude like 13 year old boys like hey i want three girlfriends yeah that would be sick it's like dude that's fucking oh you mean trying to sell that to regular dudes like regular adult men they're like i can't get one girlfriend what the fuck are these guys talking about that's what it means we were talking about that the other day the dudes are like don't chase them dude
If you don't chase, they'll come to you. It's like, dude, they won't.
Oh, yeah. They're not even going to know you exist.
Yeah, you just go to your job, go back home. Go to your job, go back home. You're going to be the machinist. I'm never going to chase policies. No one knows you live.
Dudes are invisible. They kind of have a point. But then the guys that get really sucked into it, like, Louis lucks out on those documentaries. The dude's sitting there.
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Chapter 2: How do relationships and dating dynamics get analyzed?
He's, like, grilling them a little bit. And then the guy's like, yeah, well, you know, I had a problem with my dad. I didn't really. I have a strong male figure. And they're like, what happened to your dad? He's like, he took his own life. And it's like, dude, how does he find these guys? Like, Louis just rolls up on him. Yeah. He's the best, dude.
The Scientology one is, like, that's one of the best documentaries, dude.
The Scientology skit. You better not get into that. Is this Louis Theroux? Yeah, you better not.
Ah, dude. Who are we talking about?
Yeah, we thought you would be a Scientologist.
Scientologist? You will what? Gurman, if you give them all your money, it'll make all your dreams come true.
No. What if they were like, you will be the next Tom Cruise? This is what they did. Okay. I know exactly how he operates. He'd be like, well, I don't give a fuck about this religion.
I'm just doing shit.
I did listen to Lawrence Wright's book on... Yeah, The Going Clear. The Going Clear, yeah. I thought that was great.
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Chapter 3: What insights are shared about documentaries and personal experiences?
It's when Scientologists get on your ass and they start to fuck your day up. It's called squirrel busting. That's what they do to suppressive people.
Oh. I didn't listen carefully. I must be getting squirrel busted, dude. I don't know where these fucking are, but my days suck.
Yeah, the Scientology... Once you get into it, though, at some point, that could have been Christianity, where everyone's like, dude, the guy fucking made it up. He just wrote a bunch of books, and now is it?
I'm just saying. How dare you? I'm just saying it could be like that.
Not in front of the check.
Not in front of the check. Yeah. Checkmate, dude. Do not say that. How dare you? A thousand years from now, someone could be like, dude, for real, that's not funny to say.
I don't respect pawns, dude.
It's chess, and it's five-day.
I think I talked about this before, but when I saw that sex cult documentary, XS or whatever it was. Nexium? Nexium, yeah.
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Chapter 4: What changes did Shane make while at Harrisburg Area Community College?
Finally, I hit Harrisburg Area Community College, and I was like, I'm going to make some changes. Shitting on African dudes. They have no idea what's going on. They're like, dude, Y equals MX is B. It's simple. Community College fucking ruled. I took American Civil War. Our teacher was a Gettysburg tour guide. It was me and Harrisburg Area Community College students.
I was the only dude who gave a fuck, and I knew a lot about it already. This guy was like, Shane, thank you. Yes. No one else was paying attention. I'd be like, that was General Meade, right? He'd be like, it was Meade. I've been here for 10 years. You're the first guy to.
Chapter 5: What was Shane's experience like during his last semester at Temple?
It was.
He's like, wow. Anyway, we're going to have a good day, guys.
Did I ever tell you about my last semester at Temple when I screenshotted the wrong week? Dude, I was at Temple and I was taking literally... It's like when I went to school on 9-11. Is this senior year? No, this is like my second... I went to Temple my sophomore and junior year, but I was taking three classes a semester because I was like, bro, you can take three classes and don't give a fuck.
Not realizing you had to take all of them to get out of college. I took a screenshot of my semester after spring break, but we were off MLK Day. So I had physics, construction safety class, and some other things on Monday. Physics lab. So I was going to physics. I screenshot this. I don't know. I thought I'm off Mondays. I was chilling.
Sundays, I was like, dude, we can do whatever the fuck we want out of school. I go in. Construction safety. Dude, still past it. Still past it, by the way.
We can do what we want.
Dude.
So I fucking went for a month and I'm in physics and they're talking about, well, during the lab, we went over this and I had, I thought the lab was something people are going to or into physics. They had literally no fucking clue. And then I finally realized that I've been missing my Mondays for a month.
All the Monday labs?
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Chapter 6: How did the conversation shift to the topic of cheating in school?
Yes.
And my construction safety class. I rolled into my construction safety class after a month of not being there. It was literally like, I fucking didn't know I had this class.
And the chick let me in. I passed that. But physics, I got a 46 on the test. Dude, literally, Beetlejuice shit. Beetlejuice shit? Is that what you're saying? I came in. I was trying to find that Green Bay Packers jersey you bought. I was going to wear it again. Yeah. I don't know where it is. Oh, you got a fucking Reggie one? Yeah.
You got a 92.
$59,000! $5,000! I fucking went to the... I went to the... The way you're talking. It's just matter of fact.
So good, dude. Yeah. So I went to that... It's just matter of fact. What is, like, sine waves and shit? Sine, cosine. Cosine, what is that? What's that? I think they're amplitude. What's the type of math that is? Trigonometry. I have no idea. Go into fucking my trip class, get a 46, dude.
I was like, what's a bell curve? Because I thought we'd all pass because everyone failed it. No one failed it. And then I show up. The dude is in class. Like, today is the last day of the ad drop.
I was like, for the ad drop, do you have to pay for it if you drop the class this day? He's like, no, you don't. That's in two weeks. If you don't go out in two weeks, then you have to do it. I literally was like, all right, guys, got my book bag, left college.
Wow, dude, I was like this is a fucked situation like there's no way I'm passing this shit I can't look I'm not engineering is the construction management. I'm not making for you.
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Chapter 7: What are the implications of giving up something for Lent?
I thought about it. I'm Tyler Durden. And I was just sitting there like. What was his business? I gave up picking on Gervin for Lent. Did you really? Yeah. My nephew gave up doing 6-7 for Lent. Are you serious? He's struggling. Very hard. I'll call home and be like, is Anthony on? I'll be like, dude, we were at work today for like six or seven hours. He's in the car.
Dude, I coach fucking Flag and all those kids, dude. Someone doesn't hit that extra point, it's like.
I swear to God, Alex Jones has had an FU because he's been randomly hitting like six or seven years and shit like that, dude. And I'm like.
My look seven rocks.
Chapter 8: How do sports and personal stories intertwine in this conversation?
Do you drop it and then side eye? It's so nice to just be like, can Anthony hear me right now? And he'll be like.
Yes, Uncle Jay.
Like, dude, it was crazy. I was at work for like six or seven hours. He's just like, okay, come on, man. That's like someone not trying to smoke. He thinks he's going to hell if he doesn't. The power of Catholicism. He's just dying, dude.
Oh, he gave up.
He gave up. He decided. They're like, he knows. He did. He knows.
Oh, this is great.
Like, this is his favorite thing. He gave it up. Does Lent end on Easter or Good Friday? Yeah. Easter? It ends on Easter, yeah. You got to wait until he rises. He's going to be waiting. He's going to hit the six, seven.
Easter Monday is glorious.
I'm going to go. Anthony, what time is mass? Is it six or seven?
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