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Chapter 1: What is the premise of 'Let Them Off'?
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Welcome to My Therapist Ghosted Me with me, Joanne McNally, and... Me, Vogue Williams. Vogue Williams. And Jo Attiwell. Can I talk about Mel Robbins for a second? Yes.
Mel Robbins, which one's that now? Because I know that other fellow. What's his name? You know him. I always try and bring him up when you bring up Mel Robbins and I never know what his name is. Robert Greene. No. And he goes, oh, she's an author.
Chapter 2: Who is Mel Robbins and what is her theory?
Mel Robbins, podcast host, former lawyer. She is known for her TED talk, How to Stop Screwing Yourself Over and her book, The Let Them Theory. Okay. So she's kind of like a, I would say self-help-y territory. Mm-hmm. But she's having a real moment at the moment. And I think she's great. I really like her podcast and stuff. But she has this, what she's calling a theory, right?
And it's called the let them theory. And it's kind of doing the rounds at the moment. And everyone's kind of engaging this Mel Robbins theory called let them. So if someone wants to break up with you, let them. If someone wants to not invite you to a party, let them. If someone wants to fuck you over, let them. Yeah, exactly. And thank them. Send a thank you card for not interfering with your life.
Let them.
It's basically fuck them.
It's fuck them.
I know it's fuck them. But it's also like it's one of the hardest things to do as well. Like if someone breaks up with you and you're like, OK, fine.
fuck Spencer breaks up with me tomorrow okay fine I'll let you I'll let you and I'll do nothing about it yeah right I'll be ringing you non-stop you just have to kind of suck some shit up but like we were growing up we all had this saying that we used to say to each other going let them off so let them off let them off let them off like if someone if you brought a complaint to one of your friends this person screwed me over and they've said this mean thing or they've done this mean thing we'd be like do you know what let them off
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Chapter 3: What does 'Let Them Off' mean in relationships?
And it kind of releases it from you. I just thought it was very strange the way people are kind of acting like Mel Robbins has coined this let them off thing.
Why don't you bring back, what was that? Sorry, you just said it now. Let them off. Let them off. She can have let them. Joanne McNally's new book, Let Them Off. Let Them Off. Fuck them.
That's my book. It'd be like if Josie left you for another man, right? And you were obviously, I assume you'd be perturbed. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Perturbed. Would you be perturbed?
Yeah, you'd be a bit perturbed. Some perturbment. Bit of anguish, yeah.
There'd be a sprinkling of perturbment, for sure. And so if I was just like, do you know what? Let her off. Because also I feel the harder, the more you try to hold on to something, you know that saying, let go or be dragged? Yeah. So you can be... It's the let go. It's the let it go theory, basically. And it does work. It really does work if you kind of engage your core.
And you're like, do you know what? Let them. Because do you know why? The more you let them, the chances are they'll come back around, which is ultimately what we want. It's revenge.
I know, but whoever, come on. It's like, I love the sound of let them and it sounds amazing. And I'd love to be a part of the let them gang. But like, I think when you're on the other side of the let them, if you're not, if you're not the let them person and you're the one that has to be like, oh, I have to let them. Then you're like, oh no, this is really hard.
You mean if you're not the person doing the thing that they need to let? Yes.
Yeah, if I'm not being let, if I have to be the let them, I'd rather be the let. Yeah, it's a lens.
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Chapter 4: How do breathing techniques help with anxiety?
Oh yeah.
There's a Wim Hof one. He's the ice bath dude, right? Yeah. But I, but Spenny said he was, because he used to do all these breathing things and then he was on his motorbike at a traffic lights and he did it and he was like, oh my God, he felt like he was going to faint. Like he, just be doing it sitting down. Don't be doing it operating any kind of machinery because it's meant to be wild.
It's like hyperventilating on purpose. You flood your blood with oxygen and it makes you feel all wooey and sort of a bit drunk.
So is the point of that to distract you from the pain that you're feeling in the moment is to almost knock yourself unconscious? Is it just a distraction method?
Well, the breathing one, the one in for like seven or something and hold for three, it's because you're concentrating. You don't usually count your breath. So if you're like in for seven, you're counting and you're holding for three. So you're so focused on that that it's making you forget about everything else while calming you down.
Yeah, so it's distraction. It's kind of to recenter yourself. It's like touch grass. It's that thing of kind of recenter and don't let your brain run away with itself.
yeah well yeah and it's well it's hard to catch it sometimes when it does do a runner it's much like a horse on a track it's very hard it is it's very hard to get that crazy horse back in the stable isn't it it's only when it gets back into the stable and you're like whoa that was a real crazy time there 12 laps of paranoia later oh it's coming back come back come back here yeah bucking around the place for a while yeah
I was reading a story the other day about a man who died, it was a jockey who was in the middle of a horse race and he died of a heart attack while he was on the horse but no one realised and the horse finished the race and he is still historically the only dead person to finish a horse race. Stop.
He had a heart attack, they think it was, because you know how jockeys have to keep... And stayed on. They're strapped on their legs. And no one noticed. They're all clapping him as he crossed the line. He was fucking full-blown dead.
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Chapter 5: What happened at the Willy Wonka experience?
Yeah, she's great at lip syncing. She invented lip syncing. She should be huge on TikTok, technically. And she's a really good dancer. So she has to dance. And you can't do both. I can't even walk and sing, let alone fucking dance like a pro. We're expecting too much. Here, do you ever get insulted by a dog? I had a weird moment yesterday.
I walked by this dog outside a coffee shop and I really wanted to pet it because it was one of those Bernese mountain dogs. You know, those huge dogs.
Yeah, they're great.
Which then randomly, yesterday, I ended up seeing four of them. One sitting in the back of the car driving in front of me. And it was really weird. It was like they were just going against me. But anyway, I saw this dog in the way and I was like a bit scarlet because there was three people sitting around a table with this dog. And then the way in, I literally couldn't help myself.
I was like, oh, can I pet your dog? And he was like, yeah. And then the dog literally, which was lying down happy, got up and completely backed away from me. Like my hand was made of hammers. I was like, what the hell is going on? And it's really embarrassing.
I've had that with kids and it's really embarrassing when someone's like,
oh look at your auntie Joanne they're like yeah or the second you touch them they start crying yeah it's so humiliating I'm a dog gal they know they know I'm on their side dogs love me kids not so much I struggle with the kids thing is kind of embarrassing because they're reaching for the parents and then I just want to go fuck you then let them I don't want to hold you anyway yeah yeah if the child wants to go back to their parents let them okay let them
she's back on this she's back on yeah see you in the ring Mal um can I can I wish a happy anniversary to something that's very close to my heart yeah I would like to wish a happy anniversary it's our first anniversary together um and can I say since this event took place my life has been different and significantly better Happy anniversary to the Willy Wonka experience.
It's a year since it lit up the world with its shiteness. And I am just so pleased to see it thriving and surviving. Can I just do a breakdown of where they are all now? Okay. And this is a great example of all press is good press. Unless you're the organisers, then maybe not so much. But the crew, the cast, and we are calling them a cast. We are calling them a cast.
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Chapter 6: What are the latest trends in fashion?
Chapter 7: How do pets react to strangers?
Yeah, she's great at lip syncing. She invented lip syncing. She should be huge on TikTok, technically. And she's a really good dancer. So she has to dance. And you can't do both. I can't even walk and sing, let alone fucking dance like a pro. We're expecting too much. Here, do you ever get insulted by a dog? I had a weird moment yesterday.
I walked by this dog outside a coffee shop and I really wanted to pet it because it was one of those Bernese mountain dogs. You know, those huge dogs.
Yeah, they're great.
Which then randomly, yesterday, I ended up seeing four of them. One sitting in the back of the car driving in front of me. And it was really weird. It was like they were just going against me. But anyway, I saw this dog in the way and I was like a bit scarlet because there was three people sitting around a table with this dog. And then the way in, I literally couldn't help myself.
I was like, oh, can I pet your dog? And he was like, yeah. And then the dog literally, which was lying down happy, got up and completely backed away from me. Like my hand was made of hammers. I was like, what the hell is going on? And it's really embarrassing.
I've had that with kids and it's really embarrassing when someone's like,
oh look at your auntie Joanne they're like yeah or the second you touch them they start crying yeah it's so humiliating I'm a dog gal they know they know I'm on their side dogs love me kids not so much I struggle with the kids thing is kind of embarrassing because they're reaching for the parents and then I just want to go fuck you then let them I don't want to hold you anyway yeah yeah if the child wants to go back to their parents let them okay let them
she's back on this she's back on yeah see you in the ring Mal um can I can I wish a happy anniversary to something that's very close to my heart yeah I would like to wish a happy anniversary it's our first anniversary together um and can I say since this event took place my life has been different and significantly better Happy anniversary to the Willy Wonka experience.
It's a year since it lit up the world with its shiteness. And I am just so pleased to see it thriving and surviving. Can I just do a breakdown of where they are all now? Okay. And this is a great example of all press is good press. Unless you're the organisers, then maybe not so much. But the crew, the cast, and we are calling them a cast. We are calling them a cast.
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Chapter 8: What is the significance of 'the power of no'?
No, not only do they not give a fuck, but there was, at one point I was like, he's going to call security or something, really. I mean, he looked like he felt unsafe.
Well, I'm actually glad that you have cleared that up. That's a good thing to have cleared up.
It's still disappointing not to be known by the Taoiseach, but I guess it makes sense.
And he certainly knows who I am now. Well, do you know? And he's frightened. Him and his security team. Very aware. Oh, crap. Here she is again. Yeah.
blocking me off I think I think that we like a politician sometimes like when we bumped into Micheál Martin we found a very another Taoiseach of Ireland and we bumped into a spinning Taoiseach of Ireland and I think that we kind of get like there's certain pictures of people that I'll get from my mum to be like look mum
Do you remember the night we met? Were you there with the night we met, Micheál Martin? Or was I on my own?
No, I was with you.
Yeah, we'd done the Late Late. And do you know what happened that night as well?
I know, I know.
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