Mark Lawrenson pays tribute to Kevin Keegan | OFF THE BALL BREAKFAST

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Colm Boohig 0:44
Yeah, so yesterday afternoon, the world of football and beyond learned of the very sad news of the passing of Kevin Keegan, just 75 years old. He revealed earlier this year that he had very advanced cancer and he passed away after a remarkable life, let alone football career. So from one legend to another, delighted to say that Mark Lawrenson joined us on the line this morning. Mark, good morning. How are you?
Mark Lawrenson 1:05
Morning, guys. All good, thank you.
Colm Boohig 1:08
What are your memories, Mark?
Mark Lawrenson 1:11
Oh, loads. But I'll tell you a story that not many, many people know. Kevin was playing at Scunthorpe, Scunthorpe United in the fourth division. My stepfather was on the board at Preston North End and they went to buy him. They went to buy him for 30,000 quid, right, all those years ago. And when they got there, they'd been usurped by a certain manager from Liverpool, Mr Shankly, who nicked him, basically. so they're going back to Anfield and the season was about to start and before the season they have a little game between themselves on the pitch and everything and Kevin would normally have been in the second team playing against the first team but somebody got injured and they stuck him in the first team with John Toshack and the pair of them never ever looked back big one little one and it was just a marriage made in heaven shall we say
Colm Boohig 2:08
Do you know if Tasha and Keegan got on? I always heard that they weren't that personally that close, but they had incredible telepathic understanding on the pitch. I don't know if that's true now.
Mark Lawrenson 2:18
No, you know, that's another thing. The telepathic thing was they did a thing where they were back to back and they were supposed to get... Yes, I saw that. Yeah, but you know what it was? Yeah. Where they sat back to back, the cameraman, they saw it in the cameraman's lap. Everyone thought, oh, they're brilliant.

What news prompted Mark Lawrenson to join Off The Ball Breakfast this morning?

Mark Lawrenson 2:36
This is unbelievable. Look what we've signed. No, no. The cameraman was like giving it all away, basically. But no, listen, they were fine. You don't have
Colm Boohig 2:46
love everybody in the football team anyway but I mean it worked big one little one you know Tosh heads it down Keegan scores on a regular basis What kind of a player was Kevin Keegan in say comparison to today like a player of the modern era because I know he worked really hard on his craft he said he was never naturally that gifted despite winning back-to-back Ballon d'Ors and all the stuff he won on a team level what kind of a player was he Mark?
Mark Lawrenson 3:10
Well, there you go. That's the first thing. I mean, you said it yourself. He worked his gonads off. Absolutely did. And he wasn't a gifted footballer, but he made himself into a sensational footballer. Never, ever, ever stopped. And a good team player as well. But he was... It was horrible to play against, certainly, because he never, ever stopped running. He never stopped moving. And he was actually quite a small guy, but he was strong. He was very, very, very strong. So there's a story about him which is 99% certain. I was playing for Liverpool. It was a Friday night FA Cup. First time ever the FA Cup had been played on a Friday night. We were playing Newcastle and Kevin was playing. And so there's Waddle and all sorts of players playing for Newcastle.
Mark Lawrenson 4:00
And We were playing a game and I think we were four up.

How did Kevin Keegan go from Scunthorpe to Liverpool and form the 'big one, little one' pairing?

Mark Lawrenson 4:04
We'd take them apart, basically. And he was getting frustrated and all those kind of things.

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