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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Bad boy. Hello. How do you always get phlegm in your throat whenever you say fellas now? No, I don't. Yeah, you do. You go fellas. Eyes to the front, Keezy. You know I was looking at you that whole time and don't even know who you were talking about.
Come on, man. You're a shocking bastard. It's because I don't smoke cigarettes anymore that I get the phlegm. It's loosened up all the phlegm in my lungs.
See, what you've done there is you've found a negative from giving up the darts. It's like you're prepping yourself to get back on the darts so that you don't have that phlegm in your throat. I was tempted the other day, actually, because I walked past.
For the darts. Yeah, for the darts, because I walked past a dude and I just got a waft and went, oh, yeah, that's right. I can't be fucked with this, man. Yeah, the old darts. Yeah, they're good, man. But nah, not going to happen, man. Not going to happen. Nah. And can I just say that the vape, because you buy this two-pack of vapes.
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Chapter 2: How does giving up smoking impact your health?
You sure do, man. And it's $20. It's a bargain.
How long was one of those last year?
Well, that's what I was going to say.
It would last me two and a half, three days.
Yeah, about two or three days is about my average. This pack's lasted me six days. Wow. That's pretty good. That's really good. It's about to run out now, actually, but I've got my Nicorette, so we're all G. I am tapering quite a lot.
Hell yeah, man. May's not far away. We've still got 13 days. He's eating it up, man.
He's eating it up. I am not going to let you down, Keezy. Thanks, man.
I believe in you, man.
I am going to fucking. Where is he?
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Chapter 3: What are the challenges faced when quitting smoking?
It's going to be different.
I promise, honestly.
He's saying all the right things.
He is saying all the right things. And the thing is, Keezy, like a battered wife, you love him.
Oh, yeah.
You believe in his ability to change despite all the evidence to the contrary. True, true.
I'm not a battered wife, am I, Jase?
Shut up! Nah, Keezy, it's all going to be good, man. Me and you, we're going to be rolling in the cash.
I guess the issue that I've got, the hill that I've got, the mountain, really, that I've got to climb, is that you're a pathological liar. So we need to determine, I think there needs to be a blood test, actually, to determine whether you're going to be on your patches, which I'm happy with. I'm fine with a patch.
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Chapter 4: How does vaping compare to smoking cigarettes?
So I think his wife, who has recently quit her job, so will have more free time to sort of keep an eye on him.
Keep an eye on him.
There's going to be a lot of lovemaking going on.
Sure there is, man.
Sure there is. Just you. But I'm sure she'd keep an eye on you.
Oh, yeah, no, I trust her. Totally. She said a lot of things about you at shoot of the night, and I believe them completely. 100% I believe all of them. Is that what you felt?
Yeah, 100%. She is very trustworthy. Just quietly, fellas. Just quite the line. She's got a dark side, I'll tell you.
Yeah. Look at this. Trying to curry favour with the fellas by chucking his wife under the bus.
Yeah, man. He'll sell out his number one supporter. I like it. No, I believe her. I also think if we were to call her on the show once a week and just check in, hey, have you noticed Jase vaping at all?
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Chapter 5: What strategies can help in quitting smoking?
That's what you said when you were still vaping. That was the line that you were telling. Because I remember saying to you, so what's your secret when the devil creeps into your head and starts saying to you, go on, man, just have one. What do you do? And you said, you looked me dead in the eye. A day at a time. It was an incredible piece. You said, I just wait it out.
I go for a little walk around and if I just forget a bit, if I give it five minutes, another thought will pop into my head. That's true. And all that time, Jase, sucking it hard.
Yeah, that was when he was lying. Unreal.
It was an incredible line.
Can I just say that I did give up for four months everything. Everything. When was this? About a year and a half, two years ago. 100%, and I was so happy. And four months I gave up for, and that's what I did. I knew the way my brain works. I just need to go and do something else, and I'll forget that I wanted one.
My point is not whether you can give up or not in this instance. My point was you lying to my face. Oh, yeah, totally.
So when you gave up for four and a half months. Four months. Was that when you and I gave up? Yeah. Do you remember feeling way better?
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Chapter 6: How do cravings affect the journey of quitting smoking?
Not especially. Can I say that you're right about the phlegm?
So when you give up, you can smoke and the phlegm is fine, but when you stop smoking really weirdly, then your body starts clearing it.
Oh, really?
Your lungs start getting cleared. For a while? For quite a while, depending on how long you've smoked. And it's funny, you know, like there's some smokers, like my... But you're a different smoker to me because I did get the smoker's cough and you never had one. I've never had it.
I'm almost grateful that I've got it because it's a sort of a sign that it's disgusting and my wife hears it and she thinks it's fucked.
But I know people that, you know, they'd get up in the morning and just be hacking their lungs out.
And the thing is, though, Jase, that could be you one day. Could be me.
Well, it would have been by now, you would have thought.
I'm almost tempted, you know.
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Chapter 7: What role does support from friends play in quitting smoking?
You push through that.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, but what I could do is I could just call it now. I could just finish this one and just go, all right. Yeah. But I won't. No, of course you won't. But, I mean, I might. I might. No, you won't. We'll see how we go.
I believe in you, Jase. Thanks, man. It's so good. It's like having a dog.
Yeah, a really dumb dog who's so loyal. You come home and he's wagging his tail.
That's right. Takes a kicking and just keeps on coming back.
No, what it is is Jase is holding a ball and he keeps pretending he's throwing it. That's exactly right. And I just keep believing it.
That's right.
Where is it? Where is it?
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Chapter 8: How can humor be used to cope with addiction challenges?
Didn't know you were going to say that. But one day he would throw it, man. I know he will.
It's difficult, Jase. Yeah, I know it's difficult. It's going to be a challenge. Can I say it's the hardest thing in the world? Yeah.
Certainly to give up. Yes. I don't crave the piss. It's the cigarettes at the moment. Yes.
True that. I mean, the great Barry Humphries, you know, who was a ferocious alcoholic, Dame Edna, ferocious alcoholic. And, you know, that was the thing for him that he found by far the hardest thing to give up was the darts.
It's unreal. Sean Penn has just embraced it.
Yeah, he's just gone, yeah, fuck it. I love it. I'm just going to do it.
Yeah, he said, and this is the kind of way that you can talk to yourself to make yourself believe anything. He said, I've gone with the motto, find something that you love and let it kill you. Yes. Great. And that's how he justifies it. That's how he justifies smoking a couple of packs a day. He looks pretty good doing it, to be fair to him.
Wow. Yeah, I mean, he's getting a bit free. For a way, he's 65 or something. He's pretty fucking cool for a 65-year-old. He looks pretty fit. He's a wrinkly old bastard now, though. But my...
This is the guy that we were pretending was Jase. I have to find. In one battle after another. I have to find something else. Yeah, okay. Well, what is it?
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