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The Joe Rogan Experience

#2379 - Matthew McConaughey

16 Sep 2025

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0.031 - 9.587 Unknown

Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day!

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13.093 - 26.055 Joe Rogan

Cheers, cheers, sir. My man. You, uh, you're a man of many talents, my friend. Tell me about this book.

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27.318 - 47.706 Matthew McConaughey

poems and prayers yeah um so I've been kind of writing try to keep this like these are a little bit direction how's that I've been kind of I've been writing points and prayers down for since I was like 18. um and then this last I don't know a couple years I started

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48.985 - 73.389 Matthew McConaughey

looking around at life and the facts and evidence and people and I was like not finding the amount of things or people to believe in that I was wanting to. And I was starting to have doubts in myself as well. And I started to see myself slip into a little bit of cynicism. Which I promised myself, no, that's a living man's disease. Don't go there.

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73.95 - 79.424 Matthew McConaughey

You go from innocence to naivete to skepticism, but let's stop there. It's skepticism.

79.444 - 79.845 Unknown

Yeah.

80.767 - 102.986 Matthew McConaughey

And I kind of got... Scared and a little pissed off at myself. And I was like, well, wait a minute. I'm not ready to give up. I'm not ready to wave the white flag and let myself off for certain things I was starting to even want to let myself off on, you know, or other people. And I said, all right. Poems and prayers. Those are ideals. Those are pursuits.

103.006 - 117.591 Matthew McConaughey

You know, that's going to the dream and saying, let's go to let's let's let's look at the dream and see if we can still believe in making that a reality. Aspirational. Instead of looking at reality and saying, how do you turn that into a dream? Which is what I usually do. I'm like, art emulates life, man, not the other way around.

117.671 - 127.204 Matthew McConaughey

But I flipped the script a little bit here and said, no, no, let's dive into the dreams and belief. Man, I think it's in short supply. It was giddy. My tank was getting low on belief.

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