1263: Near Death Experiences | Skeptical Sunday

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What are near-death experiences and how do they impact people?

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Jordan Harbinger 0:23
Welcome to Skeptical Sunday. I'm your host, Jordan Harbinger. Today, I'm here with Skeptical Sunday co-host, skeptic and comedian, Michael Regilio. On the Jordan Harbinger Show, we decode the stories, secrets, and skills of the world's most fascinating people and turn their wisdom into practical advice that you can use to impact your own life and those around you. Our mission is to help you become a better informed, more critical thinker.

How do cultural beliefs shape near-death experiences?

Jordan Harbinger 0:44
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Jordan Harbinger 1:19
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What happens to the brain during near-death experiences?

Jordan Harbinger 1:28
Today on the show, advocates of science and advocates of spirituality rarely cross into each other's territory, but with near-death experiences where people believe they're literally crossing over to the other side, those lines start to blur. Everyday people living ordinary lives experience a traumatic event and come back claiming they've seen something beyond. And sometimes, even the most rational, science-minded person swears they've entered a spirit realm. In this episode of Skeptical Sunday, we're heading down that tunnel of light ourselves to see if there's really a there there. Skeptican comedian Michael Rogelio joins us to explore what's on the other side.
Michael Regilio 2:04
That's right, Jordan. So the old saying is there are two sides to every story. But as we've seen on Skeptical Sunday, oftentimes there are more than two sides. So in a sense, perhaps a sixth sense, this is going to be an easier episode to understand because there are only two sides. Either near-death experiences are something that happens in our brain or they're not.

Is dying a psychedelic experience?

Michael Regilio 2:24
There's something more, something supernatural.
Jordan Harbinger 2:27
Well, if it's not all in the brain, then near-death experiences are evidence for the most extraordinary discovery of all time. So it seems like a good time to ask, what is a near-death experience in the first place?
Michael Regilio 2:40
Okay. So a near-death experience or NDE, that is actually a phenomenon that's been around for a really long time. Basically, it's an intense experience that somebody has at the time of a life-threatening situation, which means It's reasonable to assume people have experiences like this at the actual time of death as well.
Jordan Harbinger 2:59
So the problem is we don't get Yelp reviews from people who actually die, I think. Right, exactly. We only hear the accounts of people who don't die, the people who are near death.

How can you adopt a near-death experience perspective without actually experiencing one?

Jordan Harbinger 3:10
Yes, okay, hence the name. And there are a lot of commonalities in the recounting of these experiences, right? I think that's what makes them so interesting is how similar they are. If one person said... Hey, there's a tunnel of light. And the other person's like, hey, I dove to the bottom of a river. You'd be like, ah, people hallucinate when they do this. I'm still in that camp. But the fact that everyone says kind of the same thing, that's really interesting.
Michael Regilio 3:33
Well, that is super interesting.

What are the common misconceptions about near-death experiences?

Michael Regilio 3:34
And that is what makes people think that they are evidence of something more. But the fact of the matter is that they're not all the same. And we're going to get into that. But there are some commonalities.

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