FULL EPISODE: Release The Kraken! - February 10, 2026

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How does pink noise affect REM sleep?

David Cooper 0:24
Hello, welcome, Lobstacover. Here's what you'll learn on the show. The recent massive winter storm in the Northeast didn't just freeze the continent. It sparked one of the wildest social media conspiracies I've ever seen. People online are claiming a mythical Leviathan has woken up in the ocean and the government might be covering it up. That and other sea conspiracies we'll dig into in 10 minutes time. Then ever stare at a long line and think, wait in that? Absolutely not. Turns out the psychology of line waiting is not about counting minutes, but judging the people in it and the speed that it moves.

What are the wild Leviathan theories linked to the recent winter storm?

David Cooper 0:59
We'll share that line science with you later in the hour. That's some of the night show. Let's dive in. There are millions of people who fall asleep to white noise, to pink noise, to soothing rain sounds generated by speakers. And it turns out your brain might hate that. It could reduce your very sleep quality that you sought to improve. That's according to a new study. I'm here with someone who's researched just this. He's a sleep researcher and psychiatry professor at the University of Pennsylvania. His name is Dr. Matthias Basner. Dr. Basner, welcome to the program. Thanks for having me. So let's start with this consumer betrayal. We trusted these companies that marketed these products as soothing, as helpful, as good for our sleep.
David Cooper 1:40
What made you curious that they might not work the way they were advertised?
Dr. Mathias Basner 1:45
Well, the thing is that my whole scientific career, I've been researching how noise affects sleep in a bad way, like traffic noise, for example, a plane flying over your house. or a car driving by your house, and then that sound intruding into your bedroom. So when I learned that some people would put moist sources into their bedroom to promote or help them sleep better, I said, that can't be true. That doesn't make sense. So that got me curious, and I started looking into it more.

How do people perceive waiting in lines?

Dr. Mathias Basner 2:17
And yes, there are reasons why it could help, and the main reason is masking, right? So if you have a constant background noise level and there's a noise intruding into your bedroom, The constant background noise, you know, may just mask the other noise event. You may not be able to perceive it anymore, and then you can't react to it. So that kind of makes sense. But it could also be harmful to sleep itself. It could actually be harmful to hearing, you know, in the long run because our auditory system needs to recover from the strains of the day. The best time for doing that is the night. And obviously, it could also mask sounds that we do want to hear, like, you know, your toddler crying in the next room or a fire alarm.

What cybersecurity concerns arise from the AI social forum Moltbook?

Dr. Mathias Basner 2:56
So, you know, we actually did a systematic review of the literature and we found that, you know, the quality of the science out there is really bad. Handful of studies, very small, mostly just asking people, which is always a problem with sleep because we're typically unconscious. We're not really aware of what's happening to us. And that's when we said, you know, okay, we can't really conclude anything. We can't say it's good. We can't say it's bad. We need our own study.
David Cooper 3:28
And so you did it. REM sleep. Can you walk me through why that's so important before we talk about what these machines might do to REM sleep?

How can hospitality skills mitigate the impact of AI in businesses?

Dr. Mathias Basner 3:36
Yeah, so sleep is important in general, of course, and there's different components to sleep. Duration has to be long enough. It's quality, so it shouldn't be fragmented. You have to go like a washing machine. You have to go through it different stages for sleep to be recuperative and that also needs to be regular so you're always going to bed at the same time always getting up at the same time is important and then there is like what we call a sleep architecture so there's different sleep stages there is like light sleep there is deep sleep and there is REM sleep stands for rapid eye movement sleep.

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