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The Megyn Kelly Show

MTG Quits, Markle's False Narrative, and Woke Remnants, with Maureen Callahan, Jillian Michaels, and The Fifth Column | Ep. 1202

26 Nov 2025

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

0.031 - 29.329 Megyn Kelly

Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. It's so good to see you. Gosh, this is a great crowd. Thank you so much for turning out. It means so much to me. And I know this is basically winter weather for you Californians, so it took a lot. It took a lot to get you out of your houses, I'm sure. Sure.

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30.423 - 54.988 Megyn Kelly

You know, I was just saying to my team backstage, this is the ninth of 10 appearances that we're doing. So the tour is wrapping up. I'm with you on the second to last night of the tour. And it has been life-changing for me. I am so glad that we did this. I think it would be life-changing just to do what you're doing right now and sit in the audience and be in a sea of reasonable right-wingers.

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55.008 - 77.057 Megyn Kelly

I mean, especially in California. But to be on my end of it and to be able to get to see all of you. In a way, the relationship, it's real, but it's kind of one-sided sometimes because you get to see me, but I don't get to see you. You get to hear about my weirdnesses in my life, but I don't get to hear about yours. And I get just a taste of it backstage when we do the VIP meet and greets.

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77.698 - 94.078 Megyn Kelly

But when we're going to do the Q&A, I'll get to talk to people who didn't get to the meet and greet. And when I see you out there, now I see your face, and I'll think of you when I do the next broadcast. And that's what's been happening for me. And it just makes me happier and better and more connected to you. And so I'm really grateful. You could be doing any number of things tonight.

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94.298 - 109.519 Megyn Kelly

You had to buy a ticket. You had to wait outside. You had to do the magnetometer, all this stuff. And let's face it, there's always like an element now of is it safe? And it is safe. And thank God, thanks to this crack security team, we are safe. So I'm so grateful.

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I'm also sorry that you live in the People's Republic of California and have to deal with the unfortunate politicians that come with your immensely beautiful state. And everyone knows California is, if not the most beautiful, at least one of the top three in the country. That's why you put up with all the nonsense, right? Yeah.

129.596 - 142.49 Megyn Kelly

My own personal plan with my children is to just never let them come here. Because we cannot have them living on the West Coast. We love them too much. So we just say terrible things about California and hope they believe it. You know, people are weird.

Chapter 2: Why is Megyn Kelly grateful to her audience?

142.55 - 166.254 Megyn Kelly

You don't want to go there. They don't have a change of seasons. Whatever it takes. But whenever I come out here, I am reminded of, you know, the reasons to live here. And it's not the politicians, but it is the people. One of the things we've noticed, just in our two stops here so far, is how great the law enforcement has been. Seriously. Seriously. taking great care of us.

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167.255 - 190.684 Megyn Kelly

And they too are good looking. It's amazing. Do they let ugly people into the state of California? And I've been thinking about them in the past couple of days because of this ridiculous stunt that these Democrat lawmakers pulled on the warnings that you're not supposed to follow illegal orders. Right? You saw this, right? With the most annoying U.S.

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Senator we have, and that's saying something, this Alyssa Slotkin of Michigan. You saw the cross-examination she did of Pete, right? I know, I know, you've done your genuflection. I know, I believe you care about the troops. This is how she cross-examined Pete Hegseth, who's been deployed three times.

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207.649 - 227.526 Megyn Kelly

Okay, sure, he really needs you to pat him on the head and reaffirm his commitment to the troops. Who does she think she is? So now she gets in there, after doing desk jobs in the CIA, and she wants to tell our soldiers that they can disobey the orders of our Commander-in-Chief. And you knew it. Even if you didn't know it, know it, you knew that this was wrong.

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You knew that this was dangerous, right, for her and these other lawmakers to try to lecture our troops and insert themselves in the relationship between them and their commander-in-chief. Like, what are you doing? Who would even think about messing with that?

240.202 - 250.154 Megyn Kelly

But I didn't know it, know it, like on a gut level until I heard my friend Carl Higbee, who is at Newsmax and served our country honorably as a Navy SEAL. Don't mess with Carl.

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Thank you.

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talk about this on his show. Take a look at the sound bite.

255.892 - 275.466 Carl Higbee

This is the story of how stupid political clickbait videos like Slotkin's have real consequences. You remember this guy from the movie American Sniper? This guy right here that was going around drilling holes in children's faces. In 2009, my platoon caught that guy in real life, the butcher of Fallujah.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of Marjorie Taylor Greene's resignation?

1648.928 - 1662.947 Carl Higbee

But like, yeah, Trump is circling back around to him. We forget now because a lot of time has passed. But in Trump's first administration, his first year in office, he basically croaked every single potential opportunity.

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1662.927 - 1665.792 Jillian Michaels

area of disagreement in the Republican Party.

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1665.832 - 1682.301 Carl Higbee

He went straight for the Freedom Caucus and made them his lapdogs within nine months. It was actually kind of spectacular. Justin Amash, peace is out. Peter Meyer, peace is out. Basically, everyone we invite on our podcast immediately.

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The Grim Reapers.

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1685.303 - 1688.628 Jillian Michaels

But I think that's just the reality of Trump's party until the moment that it isn't.

1688.648 - 1712.847 Carl Higbee

And it's very curious to figure out when he is going to be a lame duck. He isn't now. I mean, he's very unpopular in the country. And he's doing worse and worse in the polls. And the generic Democratic ballot is doing incredibly well right now, despite the fact of Democrats. And even with all of that, Republicans are terrified of not just him. They're terrified of Trump.

1712.827 - 1721.083 Carl Higbee

his audience, his people out there. And I think it's untenable for an elected Republican to be anti-Trump until the moment that it is.

1721.103 - 1742.678 Megyn Kelly

So why did she go anti-Trump? I mean, do you think it was the no, don't run for Senate? Like, there was a reason. She started changing, didn't she? Weren't you surprised to see her on CNN? I feel very strongly that the move for any disaffected Republican is not go on CNN. It's just not. I see that as traitor territory. I do. They hate everything you stand for on the right.

1742.698 - 1760.721 Jillian Michaels

I'm not going to suggest in any way that there's some audience feedback that she's responding to, but in the Bill Maher show, he does the top of the show, and he sits out there with a guest, and that episode there was someone talking about aliens, so we're sitting across stage waiting, and she seemed nervous.

Chapter 4: How does Jillian Michaels address societal pressures on young white boys?

3278.564 - 3302.659 Megyn Kelly

Like, wait a minute, I think I've been really misled by my side. Keeping it real with Jillian Michaels. I feel myself being less neutral. Every single thing is like, oh, no, no, no, this is all because white people bad. And that's just not the truth. Like, for example, every single exhibit, I have a list of every single one. We don't have time to litigate all of this.

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Of course we don't, because then you're going to lose the argument.

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Chapter 5: What are the implications of wokeness in schools discussed?

3305.503 - 3321.248 Megyn Kelly

And everything is racialized, just like you're trying to do to me now. Of course, the left is like, oh, she's a racist. Having a white son and a black daughter is really distressing to me. I want my daughter to know that not all white people are bad. Sorry, that's important to me.

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3321.448 - 3342.999 Megyn Kelly

You said those who are making the case that there's no difference between transgender women and biological women are deranged. Anybody with a pair of eyes knows that men have better athleticism since the inception of humanity. Don Lemon does not like women, in particular, strong women. You're a moron, dude. Everyone knows Megyn Kelly is hot.

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3343.019 - 3353.653 Megyn Kelly

There is a reason that Charlize Theron played her in the movie. Don Lemon is a miserable individual, and he puts that on display weekly.

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3371.96 - 3375.746 Unknown

Hi. I love that.

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Chapter 6: How does Meghan Markle's narrative impact public perception?

3377.008 - 3396.297 Megyn Kelly

That was a fantastic compilation, I must admit. That last bit with the Don Lamon. The Megyn Kelly's hot bit. I love that so much. I love that because, you know, we've been talking about tonight about how there's like a fracturing on the right and it feels uncomfortable. None of us really likes it at all.

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3396.496 - 3417.441 Megyn Kelly

But there's so much more of that where people who are on Team Sanity actually do have each other's back and we don't actually allow bullshit attacks on our people and we realize who we are fighting. It's lunatics like that. That's exactly right. I think that all the time and you have had my back actually in some of the worst moments.

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Some of the moments that were the most controversial, in particular, like that CNN moment. And I'll never forget, I was just thinking like, oh my God, this is it.

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Chapter 7: What critiques are made about the body positivity movement?

3425.713 - 3449.188 Megyn Kelly

I'm a white nationalist now. It's all over. Welcome to the club. Thank you. And someone sent me a clip of you saying, I've watched Jillian's transformation, talking about it. And you go, she's awesome. And it meant everything to me in that moment. And it did. And from that point, I was like, I swear to God, I will go to war with this woman. I love that. I feel the same.

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3449.248 - 3471.402 Megyn Kelly

Because when you're getting attacked universally online, you have to get used to it when you're in our business. But you notice the ones who don't join in, and you never forget the ones who actually say something on your behalf. So true. So true. 100%. Absolutely. And they sit quietly in the corner. And it's like, what are we fighting for? I know. Like, who are the real enemies?

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Like, this whole tour has had... It's not a Paul, but it's had the memory, the thought of Charlie over it. In both a very positive way, like an inspirational way, but also, you know... There's something obviously deeply sad about not having him here. He was supposed to be with us last night in Bakersfield. And the whole tour, we've talked about this rift within the right.

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3497.015 - 3521.323 Megyn Kelly

We had Tucker, then we had Ben. And all I keep thinking to myself is, the other side is literally killing us. Can we please keep our eye on the ball? Like, that's who the enemy is. The enemy is the radical left that is radicalizing young men so much to the point where they feel they had no other options but to start killing us. That's the problem. Let's keep our eyes on that one.

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I agree, but I would warn, and I know this is not a popular position, and I appreciate, I think you and I both want the same thing. We want, honestly, to never have Gavin Newsom be president. Yes, yes. Oh, my God. They're like, hello, California. You know what I mean. And my concern, your concern is we have to hold everyone together to get there.

3549.949 - 3565.005 Megyn Kelly

My concern is that people who are a bit more moderate are deeply alarmed by Nick Fuentes. He's not part of the coalition. And that's what I think needs to be said. As often as possible, this is not what it means to be a conservative. No, it isn't.

3566.246 - 3566.346 Unknown

Okay.

3568.537 - 3593.979 Megyn Kelly

He's here. Oh, God. He's powerful. Well done. Well played, sir. No, he's not. He's definitely not. I mean, look, we've always had fringy, weird people who are popular because they say really crazy. And in this case, like genuinely, and trust me, I do not throw this word around because I've been called this word and all the other words. But truly, he says very racist stuff. He uses the N-word.

3594.78 - 3615.904 Megyn Kelly

You know, he uses all the most derogatory slurs for people. It's like this is He's a very fringy person. But I also understand the interest in him because he's a compelling messenger when he's not saying those things. And because really what's most interesting about him is why he's popular. Like the disaffected young men who are gravitating that way. That's what's most interesting.

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