The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
Tue, 22 Apr 2025
Megyn Kelly begins the show by addressing the breaking news about the effort to push Pete Hegseth out as Defense Secretary, what's really behind his firing of his top staffers after a leak investigation, one of those fired now speaking out on Tucker Carlson's show and what he's implying about Hegseth, and more. Then Steve Bannon, host of Bannon's War Room, joins to discuss the intra-MAGA fight at the center of the Hegseth Pentagon tension, why the leakers may have wanted to get the information out publicly, the various "America First" factions in the movement today, the Democrats’ strategy behind embracing Kilmar Abrego Garcia, how it’s really all about delaying Trump and his ability to take more aggressive actions, the media spin and manipulation about his real story, AOC's potential to become a major national player, and more. Then Nancy Grace, author of "What Happened to Ellen?" joins to discuss the shocking and unsolved story of Ellen Greenberg, how she was stabbed 20 times but her death was ruled as a suicide, why Grace is determined to ensure the case gets re-opened, PA Gov. Josh Shapiro's involvement in the case, the newest details about the Bryan Kohberger case, why his defense team is pushing to be able to say Kohberger is on the autism spectrum and has OCD, whether the prosecution would accept a guilty plea, and more.Bannon- https://linktr.ee/bannonwarroomGrace- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DBG9333Y3 Day Blinds: Visit https://3DayBlinds.com/MK & Shop the Buy One Get One 50% Off deal today!Byrna: Go to https://Byrna.com/MEGYN to save 10%Just Thrive: Visit https://justthrivehealth.com/discount/Megyn and use code MEGYN to save 20% sitewideFollow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKellyTwitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShowInstagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShowFacebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at: https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow
Chapter 1: What is the controversy surrounding Pete Hegseth and Pentagon leak investigations?
Welcome to the Megyn Kelly show live on Sirius XM channel one 11 every weekday at noon East. Welcome to the Megyn Kelly show. I'm Megyn Kelly today. We are bringing in Steve Bannon in just a moment, but first I want to start with this news update because the story is kind of confusing. So I'm, I laid it out for you. Okay. It's about Pete Hegseth and the knives are out for him.
They've never not been out for him. They remain out for him. Who NPR, that bastion of exclusive Trump White House gets, is reporting maybe on his way out. They're reporting that Trump is looking for a replacement, which Trump is denying. Now, why would NPR have a scoop like that about Trump not matched by Fox News or any other outlet? Ask yourself that. Here's how we got here.
Someone at the Pentagon has been leaking to the press about very serious matters, even top secret matters, like the report that appeared on NBC News in mid-March, revealing that the White House had directed the Pentagon to draw up options to increase American troop presence in Panama to advance the president's goal of reclaiming the Panama Canal. What was that doing on NBC News?
The report was very specific. It stated, quote, U.S. Southern Command is developing potential plans for partnering more closely with Panamanian security forces to the less likely option of U.S. troops seizing the Panama Canal by force, end quote, citing, quote, two U.S. officials familiar with the planning.
the Department of Defense began investigating those leaks and made it known in the press that they would be using polygraphs to get to the bottom of who was behind them. Now, as with any time a threat like that makes its way into the public eye via the news, one has to wonder, are they really going to polygraph everyone or are they just setting some sort of a trap?
For example, first person to complain about the polygraphs is likely someone you want to polygraph or at least look into. Now, in the course of that investigation, Defense Secretary Hegseth wound up firing three of his top aides. On Friday, it happened. They were escorted out of the building.
Those fired include some who had been close to Secretary Hegseth before he became secretary, like Senior Advisor Dan Caldwell, who had worked with Pete at Concerned Veterans for America for some nine years. Also fired Deputy Chief of Staff Darren Selnick and Colin Carroll, Chief of Staff to the Pentagon's Deputy Secretary.
A fourth staffer, a press aide named John Elliott, also parted ways with the Pentagon, supposedly because he didn't want to be second in command of the comms shop. But there's some real sour grapes with this guy. He ran too political, first of all, a left wing rag to say the Pentagon is in disarray under Secretary Hegseth and predicted that Hegseth will be fired by President Trump.
Almost immediately after, Don Trump Jr. took to X and made clear that this guy, Mr. Elliott, is not America first, though he claims to be, and is officially exiled from the movement. He's not happy with this guy, Elliott. The three alleged leakers, however, remain a bit of a mystery.
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Chapter 2: Who are the key figures fired in the Pentagon leak probe and what are their alleged motivations?
look the the supreme court to come out at one o'clock in the morning in the dark at night over over uh easter weekend and put out a ruling and then have justice alito put at his opinion what was blistering to his colleagues we have now this thing's up at the supreme court and there's a civil war in the supreme court on the conservative side not even talking about the the progressive judges
that we've allowed and these guys are now feeling empowered you're going to have lawsuits on tariffs you're going to have lawsuits on every action president trump's going to do to delay is to deny and they're playing it masterfully the the justice department is overwhelmed because you only have so many lawyers yes this is we have to lance the boil on this otherwise the legal insurrection of these neo-marxist judges is is going to win just by overwhelming us and that's why i think it's more and more direct and tough action
I just don't think anybody is account other than the Trump administration. But none of these courts and we're not effectively making the point, I guess, enough to the judges or the appellate court judges or the Supreme Court that every single one of these came into this country without affording anybody any due process. No hearing was held to allow them. No application was filed to allow them.
They just broke our laws. Why can't we just afford them commensurate due process with that they afforded us in coming into the country? Shouldn't it be a quid pro quo? It should be a match. If you fill out forms and we erroneously said you can stay here and now we're trying to deport you, you get your full hearing.
But if you broke our laws to come here, why do you deserve anything before we get you out of here?
Megan, you're arguing law, constitutional law. You're arguing logic and the rule of law. I'm saying this is not about that. You can make all those arguments and they don't care. Boasberg, look, on the unitary theory of the executive, where President Trump is the chief executive. It's President Boasberg to you, Steve.
Please show some respect.
No, but this is my point. He stepped in the middle of this, of president Trump's primary responsibility, being commander in chief of the armed forces and being commander in chief and taking an oath to God about the national security of the United States.
He stepped in the middle of it and now is bringing criminal is setting up a record of criminal contempt charges of which, as you remember, I went to prison. They're trying to do the exact same thing around people around president Trump. This is so obvious. This gets back to the Pentagon. Folks, you have to understand this deep state. This just didn't occur overnight. This had been 40 or 50 years.
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