Truth About Hegseth Smears and Leak Firings, and Shocking Details of Ellen Greenberg Case, with Steve Bannon and Nancy Grace | Ep. 1054
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What is the controversy surrounding Pete Hegseth and Pentagon leak investigations?
Welcome to the Megyn Kelly show live on Sirius XM channel one 11 every weekday at noon East. Welcome to the Megyn Kelly show. I'm Megyn Kelly today. We are bringing in Steve Bannon in just a moment, but first I want to start with this news update because the story is kind of confusing. So I'm, I laid it out for you. Okay. It's about Pete Hegseth and the knives are out for him. They've never not been out for him. They remain out for him. Who NPR, that bastion of exclusive Trump White House gets, is reporting maybe on his way out. They're reporting that Trump is looking for a replacement, which Trump is denying. Now, why would NPR have a scoop like that about Trump not matched by Fox News or any other outlet? Ask yourself that. Here's how we got here.
Someone at the Pentagon has been leaking to the press about very serious matters, even top secret matters, like the report that appeared on NBC News in mid-March, revealing that the White House had directed the Pentagon to draw up options to increase American troop presence in Panama to advance the president's goal of reclaiming the Panama Canal. What was that doing on NBC News? The report was very specific. It stated, quote, U.S. Southern Command is developing potential plans for partnering more closely with Panamanian security forces to the less likely option of U.S. troops seizing the Panama Canal by force, end quote, citing, quote, two U.S. officials familiar with the planning. the Department of Defense began investigating those leaks and made it known in the press that they would be using polygraphs to get to the bottom of who was behind them. Now, as with any time a threat like that makes its way into the public eye via the news, one has to wonder, are they really going to polygraph everyone or are they just setting some sort of a trap?
For example, first person to complain about the polygraphs is likely someone you want to polygraph or at least look into. Now, in the course of that investigation, Defense Secretary Hegseth wound up firing three of his top aides. On Friday, it happened. They were escorted out of the building. Those fired include some who had been close to Secretary Hegseth before he became secretary, like Senior Advisor Dan Caldwell, who had worked with Pete at Concerned Veterans for America for some nine years. Also fired Deputy Chief of Staff Darren Selnick and Colin Carroll, Chief of Staff to the Pentagon's Deputy Secretary. A fourth staffer, a press aide named John Elliott, also parted ways with the Pentagon, supposedly because he didn't want to be second in command of the comms shop. But there's some real sour grapes with this guy. He ran too political, first of all, a left wing rag to say the Pentagon is in disarray under Secretary Hegseth and predicted that Hegseth will be fired by President Trump.
Almost immediately after, Don Trump Jr. took to X and made clear that this guy, Mr. Elliott, is not America first, though he claims to be, and is officially exiled from the movement. He's not happy with this guy, Elliott. The three alleged leakers, however, remain a bit of a mystery. Why would Pete's top aides, including his friend Dan Caldwell, allegedly leak to NBC News about alleged war plans involving the Panama Canal? And there were other leaks, too, like that Elon Musk went over to the Pentagon. There were it was there were a few of them. It wasn't just the one. But this one would be top secret. All we know for sure is that Dan Caldwell appears to be part of MAGA's more non-interventionalist wing, which is fine. That's probably how Trump won the election in large part. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being non-interventionalist. I think the Republican Party in general has had it with the forever wars and the more bellicose nature of some of the parties.
Certainly the neocons have become... otherized and almost enemies to that strain of the party. So there's nothing wrong with Dan Caldwell feeling that way. And he does appear to feel that way. But the question is, was that view abhorrent to the people who fired him? Mr. Caldwell seems to think so. He went on Tucker's podcast last night with his first remarks since he got the ax and
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