Ep. 7: The Art of Self-Advocacy ft. Autistic SLP Jamie Boyle
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What is the purpose of this special guest episode and who is Jamie Boyle?
What's up, everyone? Welcome to Making the Shift.
Where we listen to autistic voices.
Explore new therapy ideas.
And share neurodiversity-affirming methods and strengths-based approaches to support autistic kids.
Because we're not here to try and, quote, fix kids.
We are here to love them, embrace them, and celebrate them for who they are. I'm Jessi Ginsberg, sensory integration trained SLP, founder of a top-rated speech therapy clinic in Los Angeles, and creator of the Inside Out Sensory Certificate for SLPs.
And I'm Chris Winger, also known as Speech Dude, high school SLP, and creator of the Dynamic Assessment for Social Emotional Learning. Are you ready to make the shift?
Let's do it.
hello everyone and welcome to episode seven of making the shift we are here today with jamie boyle i'm so excited yes that you're here so we are in the beautiful newport beach i wish you guys could see our view right now it is gorgeous and jamie and i just wrapped on are on filming for autism support resources for teams, which is our new resource for parents, professionals, anyone who's trying to better support autistic kids. So we've been doing that. We've had a day. We really have.
Yeah.
So Jamie is an autistic SLP from Philly and we brought her all the way out here to do this work with us. And it's just been so awesome, but yeah, we'd love for you to tell everyone a little bit more. about yourself.
Happy to be here. Happy to share. I, um, so like Jesse said, I am a speech language pathologist and I'm autistic and like many female autistic individuals, I was late diagnosed. And I did seek a diagnosis later in life when I was working with kids that were autistic. And I would see just a lot of the characteristics in myself in them. And so, you know, I kind of was like, okay, you know, I want to know, you know, if I am also autistic.
Yeah.
So I did seek a formal diagnosis just to be sure to have that differential diagnosis and know for sure. But unfortunately, there's not too many providers that specialize in this sort of thing. So once I found my provider that actually happened to be just two blocks away from
me in
Philadelphia, I was like, this is great. This is exactly what I'm doing. I'm ready to do it. And then, yeah, and then just everything kind of clicked. I'm like, yeah, that is great. I have a name for it. I have a name for my experiences and that is essentially my diagnosis story.
Yeah. And you know, what's interesting because we were talking about how when you see kids, a lot of the times you think that parents are realizing they're autistic as you are pointing out things about their own child.
Yeah, yeah. And so, you know, a lot of times I will identify some characteristics that might be autism. And I think a lot of times the caregivers are like, I'm like that, or I did that as a child. And I kind of guide them on their own diagnosis journey to understanding a lot more about themselves.
How did Jamie’s late autism diagnosis change her personal and professional life?
So it's been really cool in my experience, you know, personally, but professionally working with families, autistic caregivers and their autistic children.
Yeah. And I think we see that a lot in our practice, too. And you we should say you own a private practice. So, yes, that's the setting you're in. But we see that, too, where I think parents are recognizing more and more signs. Because they didn't know what autism looks like. Yes. Like many people. Exactly. Yeah.
Yeah. And it really is kind of mind blowing in a way because you kind of do this dance in your head. Like, how come no one saw this sooner? Or did I really go my entire life without knowing this about myself? You know, of course, I've always just been me. But I was, you know, I had a developmental disability and never knew it until, you know... I would say for sure until I was formally diagnosed, but, um, you know, always struggled in school. And like, for lack of a better term, like many times in my growing up and in graduate school, I was just lost in the sauce. Like I was, I had no idea like what was going on and what do I was missing. And I, um, and I was like, I know there's differences.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the purpose of this special guest episode and who is Jamie Boyle?
0:08–3:33
2
How did Jamie’s late autism diagnosis change her personal and professional life?
3:33–5:53
3
Why is understanding sensory needs essential before teaching self‑advocacy?
5:53–9:52
4
What practical steps can parents and professionals use to help a child self‑advocate?
9:52–14:09
5
How does Jamie manage travel anxiety and sensory overload on flights?
14:09–16:39
6
What everyday sensory strategies does Jamie use to stay prepared for unpredictable situations?
16:39–18:30
7
What resources are available for families and clinicians to support autistic self‑advocacy?
18:30–21:17
8
How do the hosts wrap up the conversation and encourage listeners to engage with the show?
21:17–24:06
Speakers
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