Chapter 1: What happened with Amanda Batula and West Wilson on 'Summer House'?
Good morning, girlies, it's the toast. It's Jackson, Claude, and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast.
They sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Wednesday. And boy, if there ever was a hump day, that Humpty Dumpty sat on a motherfucking wall, bitch. Hey, Jax, how you doing?
Why is it such a hump day for you? As you desecrate the nursery rhyme.
I have to climb a mountain today. That's a hump. Like we have an insane fucking episode. Oh, we do. Historic episode. We do. You know what?
I'm in Dallas, by the way. If you're watching as a video, you're like, where is she? Who is she? Where has she been? Serena. I'm in Dallas. And who is she? And who is she? She's Jax. And who is she with? She's Claude. Yeah. And we're like so transatlantic, continental.
Oh my God.
Every day is every night a different town. That's literally the show. You never know where we're going to podcast from next.
And that's why we're always bringing new and interesting perspectives because we travel.
Yeah, she's Texas. We're well traveled. She's choosing Texas, I can tell. I'm in Dallas for the holiday and so many things, so many things, Kojerna, I have to tell you.
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Chapter 2: How did Olandria Carthen make waves in the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue?
Yeah. Probably Wes, if I had to imagine.
I think it's the fact that your friend could be such a phony, not even phony, because I'm going to, again, give this girl the benefit of the doubt and say that this summer when she's there for Ciara the entire time and last summer, like she means it and she's there for her. But to say a few months later, you're single, he's single. You start to identify that you have a crush on this guy.
Sorry, that's not going to work. Like grow up, ignore it. Yes. Especially for someone who like he it's not like they are. I mean, we should just get into the stories because I have so many thoughts.
We're like getting into that.
But is there anything else that you want to say? Cojourners?
Any truths? I picked back up the season of Summer House last night on Peacock. I had to renew my Peacock thanks to Scamanda. Stop calling it that.
You're making it.
I can't. It's naturally coming to me. Sorry. Okay, say it like this. Amandeval, Amandeval, Amandeval. Westmandeval. It sounds like Westeros. Like, I take a trip to Westmandeval this weekend. Okay, I did want to say one thing outside of Scamanda that I wanted to share. I just wanted to remind everyone that it is April Fool's.
So, like, your friends, family, and your favorite influencers will be telling you that they're pregnant. Do you know that you got got already? Of course I do. You didn't read the chat this morning? I did.
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Chapter 3: What did Tiger Woods say after his DUI charges?
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Chapter 4: What bombshell did Dave Portnoy drop about Amanda and West's romance?
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It wasn't giving conclusive. I just checked my phone and Dana told me the prank she did for Josh for April Fool's Day. Her husband. Oh, she told me. It was so funny. She's neighbors with Frank Catania. which is just a fun fact about her. Which is a fun, and they're like neighbor friends. So she like faked a phone call with Frank Catania, like that they were coming over for Seder tonight.
She started like bringing up chairs from the basement while acting like Frank is coming for Seder. Now he, like, that's a dream. Dream. Maybe he will. Maybe he'll hear this and he'll pop over.
I just want to let everyone know we are recording at the crack of dawn. And we have been told, like, to be alerted if anything comes out about it. Because, of course, the timing yesterday couldn't have been worse.
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Chapter 5: What revelations were made about Lamar Odom and Khloé Kardashian in the Netflix doc?
We do a whole episode. Is it real? Is it real? Is it real? Maybe 20 minutes after our episode dropped, it's real. I had to be honest.
I'm glad I got all of my thoughts out yesterday in, like, anticipation of knowing the truth. Because, like... Like I said, I can't believe a person, I refuse to believe a person would be so like- Self-destructive. Dumb, self-destructive and self-indulgent, really.
Yeah. Anyways, here's the story. Wait, and before we start from the top, I just wanna say like unequivocally, Team Ciara, right? But I feel like as podcasters and just as people, I try to learn, you know, always. And one of the takeaways I remember feeling from Scandavol was like, of course I didn't feel bad for Raquel. It was very much like the consequences of her own actions.
But like, at what point is it too much, right? Like she's a person who didn't kill anyone. Like she made just a very bad mistake. Over and over and over again. Over and over, yeah. And I felt like towards the end, like we were beating a dead horse a little bit and we're so not there yet. I just want to be mindful of my language.
Do you feel that way about Scandavol?
No. No, I don't. I don't know why. It's the same thing. Yeah. I just feel like anybody who's getting the wrath and she's wrong. Like in terms of the situation, I just get like scared and sad for the person. I'm an empath. Yeah. Who's like getting. I've been on the end of a very smaller scale, except not Sandoval. No, not Sandoval. Because there are people who are truly evil.
I don't believe Amanda's evil. I think she's not smart or loyal. And yes, self-indulgent is the perfect word for it. but I don't think she's an evil person. So I don't know. I just get conflicted because I am like an empath, but she's wrong and we hate her. Yeah.
That's what you want me to say? I don't have to hate her. I don't have to have such strong feelings about this. This isn't my life. You know what I mean? And it's not like I was ever like love, love, love, like wrapped up my identity in her or these people. So like, I don't have to have the equal and opposite reaction.
I guess if like you have your identity wrapped up in these people, like you'll have really strong feelings about it. But like, I don't. So I'm like, damn, you shouldn't have done that. Tea.
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Chapter 6: How are fans reacting to the drama between Amanda and Sierra?
leading up before this, leading people to think like maybe there was a chance they were getting back together. Dumois said that they were spotted.
So I think we all thought they were on track to like try again. Yeah, they've been flirting this season. Like you see her like really try and forgive him and also struggle with her feelings of like still having feelings for him and like how shitty that is because of what he did. But then he also felt so embarrassed by it. Yeah.
And she he's also starting to say like he thinks she's great, but like he won't say anything actually offensive. Yeah. Of import. You know, I think she's cool. I really like her. I like how I feel around her. You know, not like, listen, I'm sorry. I want to do this right this time. So like always just giving her like half ass half like I like you, but like not enough to give you what you want.
West's best friend in the house named Jesse is also really hung up on Sierra. And I haven't seen the episodes yet. What is West's reaction to that?
Like the make-out thing. Yeah, I think he said it was okay, but then everybody else was like, that's really weird.
Yeah, so if you're watching with a very keen eye, it doesn't really look like... But maybe he's just not like that, unless he's behind closed doors. It does feel like she likes him more than he likes her.
Yes, but also I could imagine a world where he was thinking like... Of course, I don't want my buddy to make out with Sierra. But like if that would make Sierra happy, I think he just wants her to be happy and like not be like if I think for him, it's like if she moved on, she wouldn't hate him so much. And that would be good for him.
Yeah.
You know, so I think he wouldn't ever stop her from moving on.
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Chapter 7: What impact does the 'Scandoval' have on the current reality TV landscape?
I'm like, oh my God, this is a really elaborate... Buffalo Wild Wings campaign. And she's crying because she likes ranch, you know, like something. I don't know. And I was like, with those two things together, I'm like, this is, I feel so stupid. I feel taken advantage of. Like I got mad. And I'm like, this is a good way to like harbor really resentment for Buffalo Wild Wings.
I'll never set foot. I never have, but I never will. Then a lot of time passed and Page Six started posting like different pictures of her crying. And I just thought it was like too convenient that like 20 minutes after the statement, I get a picture, you know, like I just didn't think it was real.
Yeah. And if she has known about this and known it's true for a couple of days or weeks, why is she breaking down at the exact moment that the news is public when this is not new to her? Maybe it makes it real. But like, I don't know. I just feel like. what she already knew. So why now? Yeah.
Two things I want to talk about. Edie Parker and Vanita. So let's talk about Vanita, who is a cast member on a different show. Southern Charm. Called Southern Charm. And she's really good friends with Ciara.
And so a lot of people have been like posting, we talked yesterday about Austin, like subtly Lindsay Hubbard, subtly like nodding to this being true and like, you know, expressing their disapproval. But Vanita came out just like, Straight. Like I really appreciated her, not like a gif or whatever. Like she was like, I'm talking about you, Amanda.
And she was like really crazy to like release a joint statement when you haven't even apologized to your friend.
But I guess that tracks, I think she said. Yeah. But Claudia, she didn't say anyone's name. It could have been about. The Cholula. I don't even know other flavors.
I don't eat wings. Maybe she has a flavor. Right. Spicy. Spicy. I don't know flavors. I don't know flavors. Yeah. And then Edie Parker. So Amanda, like we said, she was on track to be the belle of the ball, Ariana Maddox 2.0. And one of the things that she was doing, she was a Tropicana spokesperson. She was also doing a big campaign with Edie Parker, which is like a luxury handbag company.
And also they like sell lighters and a lot of their platform is like legalizing cannabis.
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Chapter 8: What insights were shared about navigating relationships in reality TV?
Right. What's about to happen to her? Like... is, and it was going to be Amanda's and now it's going to be even bigger and it's Sierra's. So Sierra, I know right now you're probably in hell. You have no idea what they've done for you. Like you're about to be so rich and famous and that will carry you through the loss of one friend and a short guy. Okay. Yeah.
yeah, it's really time to move on from him now. It's just really crazy that these, like, self-proclaimed girls, girls, have done, like, the most stereotypical, like, they let a guy come between them. Well, not they, just Amanda.
Claudia, what makes this actually more shocking than Scandival is, like, Raquel and Tom were, like, dum-dums, you know? Yeah. Like, I, like, we, I expected that these people were, like, sound of mind. Even West, like,
he cares about his image yeah a lot why would he's also like he's putting his connection with Amanda like above his image and his opportunities and that's why I feel like he broke up with Sierra because of these opportunities like yeah really you could be so narrow-minded that I believe Raquel and Tom could be so narrow-minded I do yeah I don't but I don't believe it
Well, that makes you think maybe he's in love with her and that's the only saving grace. I think he is in love with her. He's so image obsessed to throw it all away. I think he's in love with her today. Jackie, what does this mean for the future of Summer House? It is approaching.
They start filming July 1st. It's April. Why are people talking like this is bad for the show? This is the most amazing thing that's ever happened for the show.
Who's saying it's bad for the show?
No, but like for the future of Summer House, as if like there might not be a future.
No, I'm sorry. I mean, in terms of who's going back in the house. Does this get anyone kicked out of the house? No. Get them all in the house. Unless Amanda doesn't want to like, you know.
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