Dr. Gabrielle Lyon

It's banana and tomato as in tomato sauce.

Or ketchup for French fries.

I mean, so we really have to rethink and reorient ourselves to muscle health.

And we're finally getting there because it really has been 60 years of fighting an obesity epidemic.

I was very angry.

Well, I want to know what has gotten you interested in this.

Because did something happen where you're like, gosh, I've been trying low carb and I'm training.

Although, I don't know, and you're like bonking and you need carbs.

What happened?

I remember when you were boxing, you had that boxing.

I was wondering where that was in this studio.

That's hilarious, but not funny.

Well, that is important to recognize is that number one, those guys, their goal is hypertrophy.

and maintaining skeletal muscle.

So they have a very defined diet.

And I'm glad that you brought this up because one of the things that I think is a challenge is most people do not count calories.

And, you know, we were talking before my playbook has a strategy

for eating where they don't have to count calories, you can visualize it on your plate.

And what we recommend is a one-to-one ratio of protein to carbohydrates to not actually go over that.

And here's why.