Grace Beverley

And I think, again, it's another method of shame for lack of perfection.

And realistically, like you don't need to be a perfect anything.

We need lots of people being better versions of.

yeah I think that maybe that one's a better one than the like that you wouldn't want to trade lives with because I think that like you can have lots of advice from amazing people that they don't share the same dreams as you but it's like that mutual respect and kind of liking a person that that should make you want to take their advice I totally agree

Yeah.

I love that.

Well, thank you so much.

You've been fantastic.

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I'm Grace Beverley and welcome back to Working Hard, the podcast-shaped guidebook on how to improve your own life and achieve what you actually dreamed of doing.

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What is up and welcome back to Working Hard.

I am so excited about this episode.

Today I am sitting down with the one, the only, the two, the only, Sophia and Chinzia.

You will know them as the host of The Girl's Bathroom and the founder of Rooms.

They are two of the most creative, funny, and honestly just lovely people I know.

And they almost never, well actually they never do podcast interviews.

So...

Let's just say I really wanted to make the most out of having them here and genuinely diving into their journey and the behind the scenes.

We get into what it's actually been like building a career and a business together as best friends, any misconceptions around that, growing up in public, what they've learned from the harder moments, including launching rooms and a lot of juicy girl chat, of course, because we couldn't do this episode without that.