Sabrina Zohar

But that's the key to a beautiful and healthy relationship is you have to have the vulnerability to be able to say, well, this means something to me.

And can I tell you why?

Because how would he know if I didn't share the story of my mom, why this means so much to me?

Or to your point, if you didn't tell Radia about your mom, she would have no idea and just think, why is he being so dramatic?

But it's a beautiful way to let someone into your life.

And that's emotional availability is when somebody wants you to understand where they're coming from.

That's them trying to welcome you in their life.

boundaries and communication don't keep them out they're actually trying to keep you in their life and we have to be able to read that and understand other people's lived experience i'm so i'm so thankful that you've done so much work because i'm just listening to you going wow like there's

I would imagine you would not be this far in your marriage if that didn't come with tons of conversations, hard conversations.

I've had conversations with Ryan where I'm like, is this it?

Did we get to the end of the road?

And you're, no, no, we didn't.

Keep going.

But it's necessary because for me, if we're not growing and evolving, what's the point?

Mm-hmm.

What is the point?

What's the point of both of us having a podcast if we're not helping people grow?

You can change.

You can evolve.

But God damn, you got to do some work.