Triple H: WWE Champs are Selfish, John Cena’s Heel Turn, & How Vince McMahon Never Loses
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How did Triple H's punishment lead to the creation of a wrestling legend?
Okay, first question. I'm doing some research on you, and I come across this story. I don't know if it's legend. You can break it down for us. But basically, one of the worst moments in your career, you get punished unjustly. And because of that punishment, one of the greatest superstars in the history of wrestling is created. Tell us how we get there.
Yeah, I'll just I'll lead you into what's supposed to happen. So at that point in time, I'm I'm starting to get some momentum going in my career. And there is a plan in place that I am going to win a very. especially at the time, was a very prestigious tournament called the King of the Ring. I would be crowned King of the Ring, which would then launch me into a program or an angle with Shawn Michaels, who was champion. I think at the time when they brought it up, he was either champion at that time or was going to be champion by that time. And I was going to sort of escalate myself up into that higher level of being a heel, a bad guy. And Sean was a babyface champion. So we were going to go into this program differently. into that year. So it would have been a huge, what we would call push for me in the business. Yeah, yeah. It just would have really been the thing that launched me. Oh, so this is years into the business. This is not early. Yeah, this is years into the business, but early for me in WWE to a degree. Right.
And at that same point in time, you know, the business was going through transitional changes, right? So I'm, at that time, I'm still Hunter Hearst Helmsley. I'm the blue blood snob. There's still like, everybody's got to have sort of gimmicks and characters that are not necessarily just like you're a wrestler, you're a fireman or a cop or the clown or whatever it is that the gimmicks are larger than life sort of cartoony characters. Um, But backstage, there's a group of us that hang out together that were known as The Click.
Yeah.
What was the backstage culture and 'The Click' in WWE?
Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, Sean Waltman, Shawn Michaels, myself. Yeah. And I was kind of... They were kind of... Just friends that all hung out together. Sort of Luger gave them the name The Click because they were always together. I sort of come in at that same time. For whatever reason, I get along great with those guys. We all end up as a group. We're known as The Click.
Now, you're known as a group backstage.
Backstage.
Because on stage, some of you guys are babyfaces. Some of you guys are heels. And from my understanding, the heels and the baby faces never even really hung out that much backstage. They would never ride around together. To a degree.
Slightly before that, you go a generation before that, nobody even associated with each other. If they walked into a bar and there was a bad guy in there and a good guy walked in the bar, you'd just leave. So you basically keep the kayfabe going. Keep it going all the time. And that was at a period of time where guys were getting into fights over... You know, if somebody came to you and said, ah, that stuff's fake, whatever, or, you know, try to criticize it, you'd get the shit kicked out of you. And there was a lot of badasses in the business at that time that... We're not afraid to do that. You had guys like Harley Race and things like that that would really, you know, they were legitimate badasses.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
How did Triple H's punishment lead to the creation of a wrestling legend?
0:40–2:38
2
What was the backstage culture and 'The Click' in WWE?
2:38–7:50
3
How did the Monday Night War impact WWE and WCW?
7:50–13:37
4
What is the origin story of D-Generation X (DX) and its cultural impact?
13:37–20:04
5
How did Vince McMahon adapt to the changing wrestling landscape?
20:04–23:57
6
What was the significance of the Stone Cold Steve Austin 'Austin 316' moment?
23:57–31:20
7
How does one develop a successful wrestling character?
31:20–34:28
8
What was the story behind Triple H's heel turn and the Stephanie McMahon storyline?
34:28–2:39:36
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