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SubwayTakes

“Anything is a dating app!” with Willa Bennett

Thu, 15 May 2025

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From their offices, Kareem and Willa rehash Willa’s original take, how dating apps are like buying a used car, why SubwayTakes is a dating app, reminiscing on apps like Yik Yak, Grouper, and LiveJournal, Willa being mistaken for Cazzie David, Willa’s experience so far as the youngest-ever Editor-In-Chief of Cosmopolitan and Seventeen, the etiquette of declining a marriage proposal, how therapists are easily manipulated, the “waste of time”-style relationship, Kareem’s recent engagement to his wife, a handful of dating tips and, as always, Takes on Takes©. Host: Kareem Rahma Creators: Kareem Rahma and Andrew Kuo Editor and Audio Producer: Dale Eisinger Artwork: Andrew Lawandus Theme Music: Tyler McCauley Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: Who are the hosts and producers behind Subway Takes?

23.542 - 45.449 Kareem Rahma

what's up listeners it's your boy kareem rahma i have a very special little mini episode of subway takes the podcast in front of the regular episode of subway takes the podcast with will bennett i'm joined today by my good friend and producer of subway takes and co-founder of subway takes and just all around great guy uh andrew quo andrew quo how the hell are you

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46.209 - 51.43 Andrew Kuo

Wow, that's so nice of you to give such a wonderful greeting. I'm doing great.

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51.45 - 57.651 Kareem Rahma

I mean, I think many people think that this is a one-man show, the one-man operation.

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58.131 - 70.594 Andrew Kuo

Well, I think that's just because, you know, you're the type of guy that can get so much done that it seems like, like an octopus, you have your hands, your tentacles, and so many things. One could not possibly do it all, but, you know.

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72.485 - 79.449 Kareem Rahma

Yeah, but I always tell people the secret to my success is that I work with a lot of people. Collaborator. I'm a collaborator.

80.029 - 86.553 Andrew Kuo

You are a collaborator. You love a collab. You love having Kareem X something. I love collab posts.

86.773 - 87.834 Kareem Rahma

I'm a collab post kind of guy.

88.094 - 90.456 Andrew Kuo

You are a collab post kind of guy.

91.216 - 97.38 Kareem Rahma

Well, I'm excited. We just recorded with Willa Bennett, who is the editor-in-chief of Cosmopolitan Magazine.

Chapter 2: What is Willa Bennett's controversial take on dating apps?

292.604 - 292.764 Andrew Kuo

Yeah.

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293.735 - 296.138 Kareem Rahma

And we talked about how to decline a marriage proposal.

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296.999 - 298.1 Andrew Kuo

What was the answer on that one?

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299.982 - 313.518 Kareem Rahma

I think that you always say yes. Oh. I don't think anyone ever says, no, I will not marry you. I think everyone always says yes, and then they break off the engagement like a week later or a month later or right before the wedding.

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314.977 - 324.963 Andrew Kuo

God, the right before the wedding one's tough. Right before the wedding is really tough. Yeah, I get that. You're in a position where you don't want to say no to something. You know, like someone's getting on their knee and they're doing the whole thing.

325.363 - 328.846 Kareem Rahma

That makes sense. Yeah, and in improv, you know, you always want a yes and.

330.106 - 334.169 Andrew Kuo

Right, right, right. The classic building blocks that you call the improv sketch.

334.761 - 337.343 Kareem Rahma

The classic building blocks of Upright Citizens Brigade.

337.724 - 343.009 Andrew Kuo

Right. Which, by the way, thanks again for the book. You're welcome.

Chapter 3: How do dating apps compare to buying a used car?

Chapter 4: What was the dating app Grouper and how did it work?

Chapter 5: What are some nostalgic social apps that influenced dating culture?

466.951 - 486.381 Kareem Rahma

But for those that don't know, Andrew Kuo and I have been business partners and creative partners for quite some time. It's Andrew Kuo, not the artist who you've probably seen on the internet. This is a different Andrew Kuo who, former lawyer, former banker, former Manhattanite. No, I'm still a Manhattan guy.

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486.441 - 508.179 Andrew Kuo

I'm sorry, dude. I'm sorry. You're not. Dude, I literally just had this conversation with Malou yesterday. I actually had a conversation. I was like, look, I have to describe myself as being someone who maintains residences in both Manhattan and the Hudson Valley in order to ensure to let people know that I'm still in it. You know what I mean?

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508.419 - 520.045 Kareem Rahma

You're not in it, though. I'm sorry. You're not in it. You're Walton Goggins. You live upstate. Walton Goggins lives upstate. You live upstate. You guys are both Hudson Valley guys.

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520.445 - 522.326 Andrew Kuo

That's a compliment, actually. I'll take that.

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522.626 - 525.468 Kareem Rahma

I like how Walton Goggins looks.

528.472 - 535.659 Andrew Kuo

Is it the hair? Is it the body? Is it the vibe, the aura of it all? What is it about him that gets you?

536.219 - 542.906 Kareem Rahma

I mean, he has such riz. He has incredible riz. Right? He's riz'd the fuck up. He's riz'd beyond belief.

544.396 - 566.272 Andrew Kuo

I have a question, though. When did he come on your radar? And have you always been... Is it Walton or is it Walter? It's Walton. It's Walton? Okay, got it. It's a sick name. It is because you're like, oh, is that misspelled? Are you mispronouncing it? Is it wrong? When he goes to Starbucks, people are not writing his name down correctly.

566.552 - 567.473 Kareem Rahma

No, they're writing Walter.

Chapter 6: How does Willa Bennett describe her experience as Cosmopolitan's youngest Editor-In-Chief?

832.142 - 838.065 Andrew Kuo

Right, but does he seem so happy just because his teeth are crazy? It looks like he's smiling even when you can't see his teeth.

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838.965 - 840.626 Kareem Rahma

I think his teeth are fake.

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841.567 - 843.908 Andrew Kuo

Yeah, I don't think God gave him those teeth.

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844.788 - 854.393 Kareem Rahma

But I think they're fake. I think I read that he got hit with a baseball or something in the face a long time ago when he was a kid. I think he's had those teeth for a long time.

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856.784 - 876.128 Andrew Kuo

By the way, when that happens, totally random aside, when that happens, when you have something like that in childhood, you get a fake grill. and presumably your teeth at that time fit the size of your head. Your head is a smaller head because you're tiny. And then what happens is you get older, do you get bigger teeth installed? You swap out the teeth?

876.528 - 887.134 Andrew Kuo

Otherwise, the idea that those teeth, which by the way are huge for his head right now. They are huge teeth. So at seven, he had the same size teeth? Otherwise, that would be maniacal if he had done that.

887.982 - 893.224 Kareem Rahma

I don't know if they keep changing the sizes, but he would play a great Joker.

894.325 - 897.186 Andrew Kuo

Yeah, he would be great.

897.226 - 904.689 Kareem Rahma

He has the body type. If he lost like 20 pounds, he would be real sickly looking. And then they don't have to do much to his face.

Chapter 7: What are the best ways to decline a marriage proposal according to the hosts?

992.633 - 1007.651 Kareem Rahma

What did you do there? Well, that one was just natural because I don't have enough old people in my life, so I gravitated towards him. right i guess and he's a he's a he's an you know he's a he's not as busy i don't think as like walton goggins

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1008.297 - 1032.041 Andrew Kuo

Right. But real talk, if we're actually talking about for real, for real, what I have found, and I'm not saying that this has to be the way you would do it, but the way that I've made friendships as an adult is I will get that text at a dinner party or a party or a function or whatever. And what I'll do is I'll literally just hit them up, whatever, and just invite myself to wherever they are.

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1033.371 - 1051.184 Andrew Kuo

And if they're down, then I know we've made friends. What do you mean you invite yourself to wherever they are? It's like, hey man, what's going on? What are you up to? And they're like, oh, I'm doing this, blah, blah, blah. What are you up to? And people are sometimes just being polite. And I'll just be like, oh, cool. I'm going to come with. Oh, I would never do that.

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1051.264 - 1052.125 Andrew Kuo

And then I see how they were.

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1052.886 - 1067.801 Kareem Rahma

I would never do that. I did a friendship-making enterprise recently with someone who I won't name. And recently, like last week. And I sent a text that just said, hey, checking in, how are you?

1069.042 - 1088.513 Kareem Rahma

and they were like i'm good how are you and i was like i'm pretty good and i was like what have you been up to and then they sent me a voice note and we're like hey like what do you mean what have i been up to like what in what context like are you asking are you about to like they thought that i was going to ask them for like a favor Oh, okay.

1088.853 - 1093.975 Kareem Rahma

And I sent a voice note back and I was like, no, no, no. I'm literally just trying to be friends.

1096.936 - 1100.817 Andrew Kuo

And what did that person say in response to that?

1100.977 - 1112.24 Kareem Rahma

They liked it. They thought it was cool. And they sent me a voice note back being like, oh, this is what I'm up to. This is what I'm doing. And then I think at the end of it, they were like, Yeah, send a voice note back if you just want to keep voice noting.

Chapter 8: How do Kareem and Andrew discuss friendship and making connections with celebrities?

Chapter 9: What is the significance of Walton Goggins in the conversation?

Chapter 10: What dating tips and relationship insights do the hosts share?

292.604 - 292.764 Andrew Kuo

Yeah.

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293.735 - 296.138 Kareem Rahma

And we talked about how to decline a marriage proposal.

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296.999 - 298.1 Andrew Kuo

What was the answer on that one?

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299.982 - 313.518 Kareem Rahma

I think that you always say yes. Oh. I don't think anyone ever says, no, I will not marry you. I think everyone always says yes, and then they break off the engagement like a week later or a month later or right before the wedding.

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314.977 - 324.963 Andrew Kuo

God, the right before the wedding one's tough. Right before the wedding is really tough. Yeah, I get that. You're in a position where you don't want to say no to something. You know, like someone's getting on their knee and they're doing the whole thing.

325.363 - 328.846 Kareem Rahma

That makes sense. Yeah, and in improv, you know, you always want a yes and.

330.106 - 334.169 Andrew Kuo

Right, right, right. The classic building blocks that you call the improv sketch.

334.761 - 337.343 Kareem Rahma

The classic building blocks of Upright Citizens Brigade.

337.724 - 343.009 Andrew Kuo

Right. Which, by the way, thanks again for the book. You're welcome.

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