Lemon LIVE at 5 | Shutdown Showdown! Anthony "Mooch" Scaramucci UNFILTERED! - October 1st, 2025
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What triggered the government shutdown and who is being blamed?
Good evening, everyone. Welcome to the Don Lemon Show, Lemon Live at 5. And boy, do we have news for you this evening. As you know, the government is still shut down. We've got the latest updates on a reporter who knows every single thing about it. So we're going to start with that. And then a little bit later on in the hour. Anthony Scaramucci joins us and he has some choice words that he wants to say about the president, the current administration and the situation we're in in this country. So good evening. Welcome, everybody. As always, likes, thumbs up. It affects the algorithm. More people become aware of our channel and our conversation. And this is an important one. So thanks for joining us. So the government shut down this morning, 12.01 a.m.
A bitter spending deadlock between President Trump, Democrats, and Congress. That's going to disrupt federal services. It's leaving many federal workers furloughed. It was the first federal shutdown since 2019. That was during Trump's first term when parts of the government were shuttered. For 35 days in a standoff between congressional Democrats and Mr. Trump over the president's demand to fund a wall at the southern border. Remember? And then they're saying now, well, we shouldn't be using politics, leveraging the American people this way. And now they're doing the very same thing that they said shouldn't happen. OK, this time the dispute is over. Democrats demand that the president agree to extend expiring health care subsidies and restore Medicaid cuts and acted over the summer as part of Mr. Trump's marquee tax cut and domestic policy law.
So there's lots to discuss. There's been a back and forth with the Senate votes. It was voted on again today. Still. No CR, no continuing resolution. Michael Gold is the reporter I'm talking about. He is a congressional reporter for The New York Times, stellar reporter, and he has the very latest. Michael, good to see you.
Thanks for having me.
Where do we stand right now? Are you going to say the government's closed? Thank you, Don. I'll see you next time. Where do we stay?
Pretty much where we are. I hate to tell you. It's a little bit Groundhog Day up here. The Senate took the same two votes it took yesterday. We didn't get anywhere. The votes were the same. Republicans voted to block the Democrat funding proposal. Most Democrats voted to block the Republicans. Republican funding proposal. It does not seem like we had any real movement toward a deal today. There was kind of a bipartisan group of senators hashing things out on the floor, but it's not clear whether they've actually reached any agreement. And obviously, you know, the Republicans and Democrats both need numbers to make anything happen.
Yeah, they certainly do. This is Michael's piece. Democrats see no need to capitulate. Again, this is Michael's reporting. The last time Senate Democrats found themselves taking the blame for a government shutdown, they quickly caved. That's less likely to happen now. And then he goes on to report on why. But also, it's less likely that they cave anytime soon, is it? I mean, they've got some the Congress is not even there and also the Jewish holiday. So they can't really vote on anything, correct?
Right. So there's no votes tomorrow because of the Jewish holiday. The Senate's coming back on Friday where we expect they'll vote on the funding proposals again. But just because they're not voting doesn't mean there won't be discussions. Obviously, some senators will be gone. But I think there are probably a lot of conversations happening about a path forward. You know, look, the comparison I think to make is back in March, it felt like the tide shifted and we avoided a shutdown. Schumer and not just Schumer, but many Democrats felt like a shutdown wasn't the right thing in the moment. And then in the last six months or so, it feels like the tide shifted. I think the rescissions package that Republicans pushed through really changed things for a lot of Democrats here.
I think there was a sense that the Trump administration wasn't listening to Congress on appropriations.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What triggered the government shutdown and who is being blamed?
0:16–9:28
2
How do Senate votes and the filibuster shape shutdown negotiations?
9:28–19:52
3
Why are Democrats betting on a short-term continuing resolution (CR)?
19:52–33:29
4
What federal cuts and New York funding threats did Michael Gold report?
33:29–42:20
5
Why does Don Lemon describe the shutdown tactics as ‘extortion’ and ‘punishment’?
42:20–1:04:50
Speakers
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