The Viall Files
E940 - Mormon Wives Finale, Maks and Peta, JoJo Siwa’s New Relationship? Summer House & Phaedra Returns
Tue, 27 May 2025
Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap! Today, we conclude our recaps of the gift that keeps on giving… Secret Lives of Mormon Wives! But don't get us wrong, we will still be following their drama, but in this episode we finally address the Finale! Meanwhile, Maksim Chmerkovskiy and Peta Murgatroyd join, the Summer House Finale aired, Phaedra Parks returned to RHOA, and JoJo Siwa is potentially teasing her new relationship with Celebrity Big Brother’s Chris! We address it all! “I love an eavesdropped phone read.” Subscribe to The ENVY Media Newsletter Today: https://www.viallfiles.com/newsletter OUT NOW! Listen to Humble Brag with Cynthia Bailey and Crystal Kung Minkoff. Available wherever you get your podcasts and YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@humblebragpod https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/humble-brag-with-crystal-and-cynthia/id1774286896 Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/ Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to [email protected] to be a part of our Monday episodes. Follow us on X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheViallFiles Listen To Disrespectfully now! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disrespectfully/id1516710301 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0J6DW1KeDX6SpoVEuQpl7z?si=c35995a56b8d4038 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCh8MqSsiGkfJcWhkan0D0w To Order Nick’s Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to [email protected] with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on this podcast please email: [email protected] or go to: https://advertising.libsyn.com/theviallfiles THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: OneSkin - By focusing on the cellular aspects of aging, OneSkin keeps your skin looking and acting younger for longer. For a limited time, you can try OneSkin with 15% off using code VIALL at https://www.oneskin.co Pique Life - If you’re tired of feeling depleted and want to finally nourish your body the right way, now’s the time—get 20% off plus a FREE rechargeable frother and glass beaker with our exclusive link https://www.piquelife.com/viall Timestamps: (00:00) - Intro (01:14) - Plane Story (10:24) - Programming Updates (11:56) - Household Headlines (26:55) - Maks and Peta Join (43:11) - DWTS and Mormon Wives Recap (01:10:37) - Mormon Wives Final Thoughts (01:18:57) - Summer House (01:30:54) - Outro Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @maksimc @petamurgatroyd @ciaracrobinson @justinkaphillips @leahgsilberstein @dereklanerussell
Chapter 1: What is the finale of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives about?
What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap Edition. I am your host, Nick, and we are recording from a different place today, a different pop-up studio. We're all over the place.
Chapter 2: What happened during Nick's plane story?
We're all over. We bounce around. We bounce here. We bounce there.
We're in Vancouver at the moment.
Yes. Yes, we're in Canada.
Yeah. The great country of Canada.
Oh, Canada.
The country that said, we just want a leaf.
True.
On our flag. It's all we need. Just a leaf.
They're simple. They're minimalist. Love. Yeah. I mean, it's a good, the maple leaf, too. I mean, that's a great, if you're going to pick a leaf.
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Chapter 3: What updates were shared about Dancing With The Stars?
It's a good leaf. It's a big leaf. Yeah.
Yeah, the big leaf.
Have you guys had poutine yet? No.
No. Well, I mean, I've had it. It's not for me. I know it's a staple.
I'm not surprised. Yeah.
Trauma for me.
Yeah. Have you had any maple syrup?
Have I had maple syrup?
In Canada. From, no.
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Chapter 4: What are Maks and Peta’s thoughts on their time on DWTS?
So we were not sitting in front of our gate because there were no seats. So me, my mom, River, and Nick were all sitting at a different gate. And whenever we arrived back, they were already boarding like zone four or something. So we quickly jumped in line. We were like the last people to sit in business class. Everyone else had already sat. We sit down and River's in a mood where she's talkative.
You know, she's feeling spicy. She's not crying. She's not upset. But she's loud. She's chitty. She's chitty-chatty. Chitty-chatty. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. She's chitty-chatty. She's going, hello to everyone who comes on the plane. She's babbling. Yeah. She's kind of, yeah, she's experimenting with her vocal range, some could say. Oh, she should. So they're still boarding the plane.
We've not left the gate. And I clocked the woman in front of me. Y'all know I love- I love an eavesdrop phone read, you know, on an airplane. I love it. And if you don't want people to read your phone, then you need to turn the brightness all the way down and you need to sit in a position where someone behind you could not read your phone. Yeah.
You don't hold it up like this.
You don't. With your brightness all the way up and your text size also all the way up. Oh, yeah.
That's a public spectacle at that point.
You're asking for it.
It was getting over 50.
Yeah.
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Chapter 5: What are the final thoughts on Mormon Wives?
Should we ask her nicely?
Yeah. It's like, do you have duct tape with you? I don't know. What do you want me to do? Have you ever talked to an 8-month-old?
She was giving I've never had to parent.
So as she's finishing her text, I lean up and tap her on the shoulder. And I said, it's T-H-E-I-R, their kid or not. Not that there.
I had no idea. I had no idea this was going on at the moment. So I'm like, all I hear is Natalie. I see Natalie lean forward and go, that's the wrong there. And I'm just like, what? I'm like, I know she's trying to be, I guess she's trying to be nice, but like, why would she do that? Cause I don't, I don't, I do not know that she saw this.
she's like immediately like tries to hide her phone and she's like, are you reading my screen? And I said, are you texting about my kid? And she kind of like huffs and puffs and turns. And then she brings out her phone, same level, same brightness, same text size and starts going. She just confronted me about a spelling error. She's reading my text from behind me. LOL. I respect it.
Like she just is continuing. Wait, so she was impressed.
She knew that You were reading it. So now she was like, I'm going to write nice things about her.
Asking for forgiveness. Yeah. Then Natalie tells me what's going on. So I loving an awkward situation. I thrive in uncomfortable situations. I grabbed River and I gave River full permission to just go ham on the screen that's behind her seat, like hoping that River continues this behavior forever.
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Chapter 6: What happened in the Summer House finale?
I still feel like it's unfair to shit on the dog.
He struck a nerve. Okay. He was just like... That's not even a real golden. And she turns around and she's like, actually, it is a real golden. It's a field golden retriever. And he's like, okay, sure.
That's one of the stories that's like, that would make me want to leave Los Angeles for the rest of my life. It's like shit like that.
It was really funny. And then we like couldn't escape her because we kept catching up and it was just, it was funny.
She's never going to get to the quiet.
This reminds me when I was a kid and there's, you know, like the kids movies where there's always like the character in the movie that's an adult that like hates the little kids.
things like that i remember being a kid and thinking who are those people how how do you become such a miserable fucking person and then you you grow up and you realize those people actually exist yeah it's kind of fascinating yeah i um i witnessed a man cussing at his children at the park and i ran over there and was like that's enough and then his poor kids like looked so scared and i was like do you know this man they were like yeah and i was like you can't talk to them like this
And he like got on his bike and was like, we're leaving. And everyone rode off. But I definitely insert myself in people's business a little too much when I think something's wrong. Sorry, I stand up for what's right. You do.
She does.
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Chapter 7: What is the latest on JoJo Siwa’s new relationship?
He deleted it clearly after he got yelled at by his wife.
Yes. It's like you knew, like this is a massive moment for Haley. And then to like, you know that this will make headlines. You know that this is like not a supportive caption.
Do you think he thinks that way though?
A hundred. He's been in this industry for so long. If he doesn't, then he needs to like... Hand over the password. Have a better team around him.
What I was thinking at first was just like, OK, this is his humor. This is their relationship. Like they clearly they clearly have this like fun little jokey relationship. Right. But then it's like the public perception about their relationship is that he hates her. That's what most people are like speculating. And so it's like you're just feeding into it by putting a caption up like this.
It's like it's fine if that's your relationship. But like, careful.
his behavior online recently has been odd. Yeah. I think it's to put it kindly, but then with his performance, it's hard to talk shit because he did compliment my sweater once and was very lovely, very kind, very lovely to both me and my, my wife, Natalie. So it's just, it's, it's odd behavior. I just feel like he's been through a lot.
I don't know, but yeah, I would never give the like specifics. Like people say crazy things when they're mad and like, For him to have given the specific words he said to her, like, and it's because I felt disrespected and I had to get even. So then everyone's being like, well, why'd you feel disrespected? What did Haley do to you?
Like, you're just opening it up to so many more conversations that aren't about Haley on the cover of Vogue.
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Chapter 8: What are the main takeaways from Nick and Peta's personal stories?
In March of this year, she passed the multi-state professional responsibility exam. A passing MPRE score is required before a person attempts to pass a bar in the United States. Kardashian hasn't revealed yet when she will attempt to pass the California bar exam. The two day test is administered twice a year in February and July.
What's the baby bar?
Maybe it's just like the pre test, like the PSAT. I don't know. I didn't go to law school. I don't know.
I mean, props to her, though. I mean, cool accomplishment.
The Baby Bar is a first-year law student's exam required in California for students at unaccredited law schools or those studying law through alternative methods. Yeah. Whatever. Okay.
Hey, she's doing the damn thing.
She is. Yeah. That's more than I did.
I didn't go to law school. I didn't go to law school either, obviously.
All right. Well, up next, our friends Max and Peeta Murgatroyd join us to talk a little secret lives of Mormon wives. And then following that, we'll get into the summer house finale and a little Atlanta housewives since Phaedra is back in town and on our screens once again. Let's bring out Max and Peeta.
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