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I've Had It

Death of Centrism with Gov. JB Pritzker

27 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

7.051 - 8.574 Jennifer Welch

Ready? One, two, three.

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9.937 - 18.756 Angie Sullivan

Patriots, gay-triots, they-triots, black-triots, brown-triots, and anybody who still supports MAGA can do wet pumps.

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19.417 - 52.077 Jennifer Welch

Fuck off! What I've had it with is customer service that isn't really not customer service. When I'm trying to figure out something and I can't figure it out on the Internet, which I know I'm not the best on the Internet, but I'm slightly competent, slightly above competent. So I call the customer service line. I explain what the problem is after waiting for hours on end, but whatever.

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52.63 - 80.557 Jennifer Welch

And then they tell me, oh, I can't help you with that. You have to do that online or you have to do that through the app. I'm like, bitch, if I could do it through the app, we wouldn't be having this conversation. And I just think part of it I understand is me, but why not just have customer service that says? Hello, this is customer service. We really can't help you. We only have AI to offer.

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80.838 - 96.938 Jennifer Welch

So go to the app. And if you can't do it, shove it up your ass. That would at least be honest. I can at least say, okay, well, then I'm just fucked. I have to call Kylie. But no, I go through all the rigmarole for them, the person to tell me the computer has to do it.

97.379 - 98.5 Angie Sullivan

I've had it.

Chapter 2: What issues does Governor Pritzker have with customer service?

99.155 - 126.401 Angie Sullivan

I completely agree. And sadly, Pumps, this is going to become more and more and more and more the norm to where I think the AI robot, based on the people who are funding them, like all of these assholes, like Elon Musk, Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, their bots are probably going to say, work with me or go fuck yourself. Again, we're pretty tough broads.

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126.582 - 155.988 Angie Sullivan

There's a little bit of that direct nature that we can appreciate, but the disconnectedness that's happening because of all of these modern technological advancements is just trickling into every facet of our lives. Y'all know I recently moved from Oklahoma City to New York. Living in Oklahoma City, you live a very isolated life. You're in your house, you're at work or in your car.

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156.168 - 169.982 Angie Sullivan

When you live in a big city, you're out among people a lot. So you feel kind of a connectedness to humanity. So I especially worry about these non-walkable cities in the onslaught of AI.

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169.962 - 196.498 Jennifer Welch

isolated they're gonna feel and detached from if you can't even get somebody on the phone well here's the deal i've listened to my kids try to talk on the phone before when they were younger like in high school and i was just like you can't even talk on the phone like my youngest was trying to order a pizza and i was just like You can't even talk to order a pizza.

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196.538 - 215.562 Jennifer Welch

I want a pepperoni pizza, thin crust. That's it. It was painful. So the isolation, the lack of being able to talk to somebody is really like until I heard him in action trying to talk on the phone, I didn't realize how bad it had gotten.

217.178 - 227.492 Angie Sullivan

no it's true it i think we've we've done this before kylie's put this up before the stats about the anxiety that gen z has about like calling to make a dental appointment

227.641 - 241.921 Angie Sullivan

Like that there's just anxiety regarding that because they're a complete online generation and I'm not knocking Gen Z. You are a product of the world that you were raised in and you were raised with these devices in your hand and you can go online and just book something.

242.241 - 265.066 Angie Sullivan

And I can always tell when I'm dealing with a boomer or a Gen Xer because if I send somebody a text and I need a response and the response is somewhat complicated, the Gen Xer or the boomer will immediately call and go, hey, got your text. Right. It's too much. My response is too long to text back. Here's the gist of it. And you go through a formal conversation about the aforementioned question.

266.551 - 288.141 Angie Sullivan

If it's a millennial and especially a Gen Z, they've got all day. Their thumbs are going to burn a thousand calories sorting through that problem. So that generation might be more primed to communicate with the robots, but the underlying

Chapter 3: How does technology impact our communication and connectedness?

648.325 - 669.015 Angie Sullivan

Like this is the coldest of the cold, but... being the pet owner that I am, you know, much like the United States Postal Service, through rain, snow, sleet, or shine, those dogs were going to go to the dog park. So it's a zip-on coat, which I'd never unzipped it because it's so cute. It has this little faux fur hood.

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669.055 - 680.772 Angie Sullivan

It kind of makes the whole jacket because those jackets are not that cute because they're like big giant trash bags, right? But the hood really gives it a little, obviously this black lab noticed how attractive the hood was.

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680.752 - 699.57 Angie Sullivan

notice the athleticism underneath that i could withstand such an assault and um but no i was completely assaulted and robbed by a black lab okay then there's the dog he was a big boy don't they have the bags at the doctor yes okay that's what i thought

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699.55 - 720.812 Jennifer Welch

okay so that like the other day i took my dogs in separate instead of all together and i forgot a bag with blaze and of course he's ginormous so it was this ginormous so i had to get walk home and then walk back to pick it up so it's just inexcusable that they left the guy left the dog shit.

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721.052 - 745.332 Angie Sullivan

I mean, that's Do you want to hear the worst part? What? So the dog is assaulting me. And I'm like, Hey, hey, my little my dogs are like, you know, they're protective. I'm like, Hey, hey, and I'm looking around. And then finally, I see the owner, and he's on his phone. And I'm like, Dude, your dog just stole my hood. Did you have to tell him that? Yes.

746.333 - 770.091 Angie Sullivan

And then the dog, so this dog park has these like hills with like AstroTurf, right? And then there's a small dog side and a big dog side. On the big dog side, the hill is really big. So this dog was so proud of his acquisition, his kleptomania, that he runs to the top of the hill and he just keeps running back and forth. And a human, like it's pretty steep to get up.

770.071 - 798.492 Angie Sullivan

like the lion king yes it's like it's like a really steep hill that there's like a plateau at the top and it's probably about 20 feet long or maybe 15 feet long and he's just going like back and forth and all of these people so in the throes of all this he runs down at one point drops the poop and then runs right back up like it was such a i was so impressed at the poop it was like down drop right back up on the hill right but i know who did it

Chapter 4: What is the significance of the recent political awakening in America?

798.843 - 821.712 Jennifer Welch

Are we giving the owner credit that maybe didn't see it? No, absolutely not. That owner is getting zero credit. Number one. And then the motherfucker. I would have, first of all, we all know I have problems with Ollie, that he has had to go to several trainers and he just got back from trainer boarding school. It's doing so well, by the way. But

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821.692 - 850.872 Jennifer Welch

i cannot imagine that i would have not been like oh my gosh i'm so sorry i'm so sorry is your jacket okay offered to venmo to pay for the jacket i cannot believe the guy was sitting on his phone i would be so pissed that would have pissed me off worse than the dog finally this other guy that's at the dog park whose dog was very well behaved was not a kleptomaniac get retrieves the hood

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850.987 - 868.348 Angie Sullivan

And so he gives it to me and I can tell that the zipper's completely blown. And he goes, here, I go, oh, dang it. The zipper's completely blown. I'll have, I guess I can take it to a tailor or something, get it fixed. It's not something you want to go, it's not a fun purchase. You know, the Arctic all over down puffer, right? It's not something that's like, oh, great.

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868.368 - 877.078 Angie Sullivan

I get to go get a new trash bag puffer that hides, you know, any cute outfit you have on or anything.

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877.058 - 906.576 Angie Sullivan

and so he goes it broke and i go did you not see your dog rip it off like i mean the dog was like like the dog thought it was some sort of rat or squirrel or you know like toy that's neglect that's neglect on the parents part i think i mean not noticing i have a confession to make to you and the listener i do not clean up judy's poop ever

906.809 - 927.025 Kylie

I don't know. Yeah, you can't do that. You can't write a ticket. A ticket. Well, there's like these two park, like small squares with a tree, right? Where it's like grass. Right. And if someone's walking by, I kind of just hide her behind the tree and let her do it right there.

928.107 - 931.112 Angie Sullivan

That's what you leave the you leave the poop.

931.835 - 944.899 Kylie

Yeah. My girlfriend is looking at me so mad that I'm admitting this right now. Why? Why do you do that? I'm not used to having to clean it up. I never have a bag. Bad. I mean, is that just bad citizenry?

945.941 - 960.046 Angie Sullivan

Yeah. It's indefensible. Yeah. It's indefensible. I think that you and the owner of the Black Lab could start a group.

Chapter 5: Why do some view centrism as a moral failing?

1678.795 - 1693.3 Gov. JB Pritzker

Recently, it was the Packers Bears game and I was looking for a cheese grater hat. So I did a search on Google and now I'm being delivered all kinds of ads selling me cheese graters. Yeah. And like, I'm so sick of that happening.

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1693.321 - 1704.621 Gov. JB Pritzker

And I guess the other thing that's been bothering me is I don't know how many streaming services you're paying for, but it feels like I'm paying for about 47 of them and I still can't find content.

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1705.503 - 1705.763 Jennifer Welch

Right.

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1706.324 - 1709.37 Gov. JB Pritzker

So that's annoying the heck out of me so that I've had it with that.

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1710.127 - 1730.481 Jennifer Welch

Those are both excellent grievances. Yeah. The streaming deal. I don't know if it's just, we've become so spoiled, but I'll watch a show for one or two episodes that I, you know, 10 years ago, I would have pushed through till the end, but I'm like, I don't really like it. So I think we, we have over saturation and I have all these channels. And so I've never can really commit to anything.

1731.727 - 1761.403 Gov. JB Pritzker

All I can say is I'm now going back and looking at stuff that came out 10 and 15 years ago to find content that I just missed back then. And I'm finding it, I have to say, occasionally. But I must say, I feel like every time I'm paying my bills and I've got another $6.99 or $14 a month, and it feels like cable was a lot cheaper. Yes, and more convenient.

1762.605 - 1785.344 Angie Sullivan

Your story about targeted ads reminds me of one of my favorite MAGA influencer stories, and we're going to just gossip politically with you a little bit because it's Trump's second term, who cares, right? So Benny Johnson, big MAGA warrior, right? And he is a big podcaster. I mean, whatever Trump says, you know, he's a part of that MAGA hive mind.

1786.005 - 1816.678 Angie Sullivan

Well, he screenshots one day that he was being targeted by gay cruises, a targeted ad, and he screenshots it like the gays are after me everywhere. And then people were like, Hey, bro, that's a targeted ad based off of your Google searches. So he's self-owned, which is such the perfect story that encapsulates the faux masculinity of this MAGA movement.

1817.367 - 1844.494 Gov. JB Pritzker

Absolutely. And, you know, I remember many years ago when I worked in Congress, I was a kid in my 20s. And I remember there was a congressman who was railing against the LGBTQ community on the floor of the House. And it was day in and day out and, you know, calling it evil and, you know, just really going after people. And then a few months later, it turned out, oh, no, he's gay. Right.

Chapter 6: How is the Democratic Party addressing the challenges of the current political climate?

2469.038 - 2484.895 Gov. JB Pritzker

And He wasn't wrong. The system is rigged. He was just saying it for effect. He wants to rig the system. Right. Totally. We need to be the ones who are standing up against, well, corporate elite who are trying to take advantage of people who are poor and working class and middle class.

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2484.875 - 2506.179 Gov. JB Pritzker

We need to be the party that's saying that the wealthiest people in the country should step up and pay more than your average nurse or someone who's working at McDonald's. I mean, we need to be the party that's forcing a discussion about universal health care. Why are we not? You know, this is upsetting. I'm sorry to go on and on. But no, I love it.

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2506.319 - 2528.837 Gov. JB Pritzker

Hitting on here is, you know, I was upset in twenty twenty four. Two things really upset me. A lot of things, actually. But I remember particular moments for this. In January, you may recall, I think it was in January of 2024, Joe Biden did a speech at Valley Forge about democracy.

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2529.598 - 2547.045 Gov. JB Pritzker

And I remember I got invited as a Democrat, as a governor, to go to Valley Forge for him to give that speech because he was trying to make it the theme of his campaign. Now, you know that I believe in fighting for democracy, but that is not what wins you an election. You need democracy so we can have the election.

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2548.763 - 2567.505 Gov. JB Pritzker

You know, what wins the election, though, is fighting for people to be able to pay their bills, for God's sakes, to make enough money so that, you know, they can afford their electricity, they can afford their housing. And we Democrats don't talk enough about why it is that we became Democrats in the first place, what the Democratic Party is.

2567.745 - 2590.067 Gov. JB Pritzker

We're the party, I hate to say, maybe you want to pick somebody else, but I would say we're the party of Franklin Roosevelt. That this is fundamentally, even though I was born in 1965, fundamentally, we are the party of Franklin Roosevelt, adding with that very strong focus on civil rights and human rights. And we didn't live up to that.

2590.087 - 2606.691 Gov. JB Pritzker

So the second thing, so fighting for democracy was kind of a moment when I was like, okay, I'm for fighting for democracy, but that's not the theme. Also, to your point, in 2024, Where was everybody talking about, we have a $7.25 minimum wage in this country.

2606.711 - 2607.372 Angie Sullivan

No shit.

2607.753 - 2630.849 Gov. JB Pritzker

I mean, Jesus, you can't survive on two jobs at $7.25. If you're holding down two jobs, you can't survive on that. That's $28,000 a year. You can't feed your family on that, let alone one job. Why are we as a party not out there fighting for, you know, the things that we really believe in that, you know?

Chapter 7: What are the implications of the MAGA movement on American society?

3199.345 - 3218.694 Gov. JB Pritzker

leaders, whether we're talking about Benjamin Netanyahu or Hamas, have done. We have to now stand up for the people who are most innocent and most put upon. So I think that's what it is to be a Democrat, too, FYI. And so it's a challenging, this is a really challenging moment.

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3218.714 - 3243.718 Angie Sullivan

It's tough stuff. You're right. But I think we have to have the conversation because we, during the 2024 election, the And I like Kamala. I voted for Kamala, but she stuck her head in the sand about it or did doublespeak, which here's a big issue that I think we need to talk about right now that really links with this. You say you cannot hold innocent people for what their government does.

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3243.778 - 3263.681 Angie Sullivan

So put us in that situation right now, Americans. Look what our government's doing, shooting people in the face, ICE. Um, there's been conversations about maybe they need more training, maybe they need body cams. And the guy that shot Renee Good is a veteran of ICE and an instructor, a trainer, a 10 year vet.

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3263.702 - 3277.564 Angie Sullivan

And he was filming it to make sure because Kristi Noem wants to make sure they get the propaganda. Do you think that ICE's FUBAR fucked up beyond all repair and that we need to abolish ICE?

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3278.27 - 3293.75 Gov. JB Pritzker

Yeah, we've got to abolish what Donald Trump has done to ICE, has made it so that we have to abolish it. Now, you can't go without some kind of, you know, immigration control. You just can't. We have to have that. And so the question is.

3293.77 - 3295.091 Angie Sullivan

But not ICE, not this.

3295.112 - 3322.299 Gov. JB Pritzker

Well, that's to your point about FUBAR. I really I really think you may have said it exactly right. I haven't used that term to describe. But that's what Donald Trump is. It's become his personal police force. These are like secret police running around, you know, Donald Trump's secret police running around, you know, with no badges on, with no identification, wearing masks and attacking people.

3322.319 - 3348.169 Gov. JB Pritzker

And as you said, shooting mothers in the face. How do you reform an organization like that? I just don't know. I don't know what the replacement is, but it can't be what they're doing today is okay with us and we'll just figure out if we can reform what they're doing. I mean, they're spending a whole lot of money.

3348.605 - 3366.377 Gov. JB Pritzker

shooting people in the face, attacking US citizens, people who are illegally, and just human beings. That money, by the way, could be like about providing healthcare for people. It could be about providing housing for people. It could be, but instead it's Donald Trump's personal secret police.

Chapter 8: How does Governor Pritzker view the future of immigration policy in the U.S.?

3762.941 - 3786.439 Gov. JB Pritzker

And trust me when I tell you that we should be talking about that issue much more because you know what pisses off working class people as much as anything? It's corruption in government. And that is precisely Donald Trump is getting richer and richer. His family is getting richer and richer because he's removing regulations on crypto, on AI, and his family is in those businesses.

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3787.4 - 3809.732 Gov. JB Pritzker

He's accepting large gifts. He's demanding gifts to his organizations in order for people to get some political power. I mean, this is this is the kind of thing that leads to a revolution, for God's sakes. We need to be standing up and pushing back on the corruption that he has brought to the U.S. government.

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3809.752 - 3827.627 Gov. JB Pritzker

I'm not suggesting, by the way, that it's like everything was sweetness and light before he got there. But this is now just happening on a daily basis. People see it, but nobody is really lifting it up. and highlighting it so that people, because people should be aware of it. And I believe when they hear about it, they're angry about it.

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3828.67 - 3831.638 Jennifer Welch

Yeah, like where's the Venezuelan oil money going? Qatar.

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3832.478 - 3855.398 Angie Sullivan

And in this $1 billion shake down for his peace thing, he's going to monitor the money. This guy is a crook. He's always been a crook. He's jealous of everybody. He is in his Marie Antoinette dementia, narcissistic era, and nobody's coming to save us but us. And we're going to have to keep organizing, going on podcasts.

3855.378 - 3867.412 Angie Sullivan

you know, lifting up voices because this turnout and I know that you're the one who keeps calling that they're going to be up to a lot of fuckery on the midterm election day. And our turnout has to be too big to rig.

3867.692 - 3888.797 Angie Sullivan

And we have to make sure people are not scared and make sure that Democratic governors in bluish, purplish states hold the line and don't let these you know, it's like a it's like a mafia, an incompetent horrible, dorky mafia is what this regime is like. Because at the end of the day, they're dorks. They're not even cool.

3889.177 - 3909.943 Angie Sullivan

All right, Governor, do you remember when we met you in Illinois at the DNC and we played Had It or Hit It? Do you remember that game? Okay, we're going to play it again. Oh my God. Welcome to Had It or Hit It. I would hit it. Had it. Had it. I hit it every day, sometimes twice a day. All right, Had It or Hit It, Kristi Noem.

3910.644 - 3911.845 Gov. JB Pritzker

Oh God, I've had it.

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