Modern Wisdom
Episodes
#413 - Cory Allen - How To Use Mindfulness In Daily Life
20 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Cory Allen is an audio engineer, meditation coach and author. Mindfulness meditation is great. But it is supposed to be in service of a mindful life, ...
#412 - Zack Telander - Doping Scandals & Olympics Corruption
18 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Zack Telander is a weightlifter, coach & YouTuber. ZT joins me to discuss my recent trip to Nashville to see Mikhaila & Jordan Peterson, why I think C...
#411 - Eddie Jones - Lessons In Elite Leadership
16 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Eddie Jones is the Head Coach of England Rugby Union Team. Eddie has played for Australia and coached the South Africa, Australia, Japan and England n...
#410 - Vincent Harinam - Why Is The Modern Dating Market A Mess?
13 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Vincent Harinam is a data scientist, law enforcement consultant and writer on social phenomenon and the dating market. Between Tinder and OnlyFans, po...
#409 - Andrew Chen - An Angel Investor's Secrets For Rapid Growth
11 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Andrew Chen is a General Partner at Venture Capital Firm Andreessen Horowitz, an author and Board Member at Maven, Substack and Clubhouse. Andrew has ...
#408 - Jake Humphrey - How To Build A High Performance Mindset
09 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Jake Humphrey is a television presenter, journalist and host of the High Performance Podcast. Jake has spent a career talking to some of the highest p...
#407 - Jamie Metzl - China's Plan For Global Domination
06 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Jamie Metzl is a futurist, geopolitical expert and Founder and Chair of the global social movement OneSharedWorld. The war between East and West is un...
#406 - Rob Pope - The Man Who Ran 15,000 Miles Across America
04 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Rob Pope is an ultra endurance runner and an author. For 20 years, Forrest Gump's famous route across America 5 times has stood as pure fiction. Not o...
#405 - Scott Capurro - How To Survive Thanksgiving & LGBT Politics
02 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Scott Capurro is a comedian, writer and an actor. I needed some advice for how to survive my first thanksgiving in America and also to try and make se...
#404 - Adam Lane Smith - 13 More Harsh Psychology Truths
29 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Adam Lane Smith is a psychotherapist and an author. Adam wrote one of the best threads on Twitter which I've seen this year, our first episode on this...
#403 - Richard Betts - Why Is Climate Science So Disputed?
27 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Richard Betts MBE is Head of the Climate Impacts strategic area at the MET Office, the lead author on several reports from the IPCC and a Professor at...
#402 - Paul Bloom - Why Pain & Suffering Are Necessary For A Good Life
25 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Paul Bloom is Professor of Psychology at the University of Toronto, Professor Emeritus of Psychology at Yale University and an author. People do stran...
#401 - Rory Sutherland - The Psychology Of Transport, Google Maps & Bear Attacks
22 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Rory Sutherland is the Vice Chairman of Ogilvy Advertising and an author. Transportation is getting quicker. As we reach close to terminal velocity fo...
#400 - Special: 19 Lessons From 400 Episodes
20 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
To celebrate 400 episodes on Modern Wisdom, I broke down some of my favourite lessons, insights and quotes from the last 3 and a half years. Expect to...
#399 - Rob Orchard - Terrible Journalism & Interesting Statistics
18 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Rob Orchard is a journalist and the co-founder and editor of Delayed Gratification Magazine. Journalism isn't working. Media outlets are more concerne...
#398 - Life Hacks 206
15 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Jonny & Yusef from Propane Fitness join me for another Life Hacks episode. Sit back & enjoy as we run through our favourite tools, apps, websites, str...
#397 - Dr Benjamin Hardy - A High Achievers' Guide To Happiness
13 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Dr Benjamin Hardy is an organisational psychologist and an author. Many high achievers are unhappy because the same motivation which drives exceptiona...
#396 - Sebastian Junger - The Brutal History Of Freedom
11 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Sebastian Junger is a journalist, author and filmmaker. Throughout history, humans have been driven by the quest for two cherished ideals: community a...
#395 - Alfie Brown - Not Sucking At Fatherhood, DIY & Halloween
08 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Alfie Brown is a comedian and a podcaster. Adulting is hard. I had hoped to discover that Alfie, a dad of 3, would have worked out how to do it proper...
#394 - Carl Zimmer - What Are The Weirdest Types Of Life?
06 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Carl Zimmer is a science writer, journalist and an author who specialises in evolution, parasites, and heredity. Life is the thing which illuminates o...
#393 - Ali Abdaal - 12 Simple Ideas To Earn Passive Income
04 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Ali Abdaal is a Doctor and a YouTuber. Money makes the world go round. After the last 12 months, everyone should have realised that relying on a singl...
#392 - Anna Lembke - How To Reset Your Brain's Dopamine Balance
01 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Anna Lembke is a psychiatrist who is Chief of the Stanford Addiction Medicine Dual Diagnosis Clinic at Stanford University and an author. Dopamine is ...
#391 - Tim Stanley - Why Are We Yearning For Tradition In 2021?
30 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Tim Stanley is a historian, author and leader writer for the Daily Telegraph. The modern world has given us a lot. Safety and warmth, lighting at nigh...
#390 - John McWhorter - How Does Anti-Racism Hurt Black People?
28 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
John McWhorter is a linguist, associate professor of linguistics at Columbia University and an author. The last 5 years has seen race become a primary...
#389 - Joe Navarro - An FBI Agent's Guide To Body Language
25 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Joe Navarro is a former FBI agent, author and a world expert on body language. Becoming an exceptional communicator is a superpower. No matter your jo...
#388 - David Pakman - Moving Politics Past Identity
23 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
David Pakman is a political commentator and host of The David Pakman Show. The Left and The Right really aren't talking very well at the moment. It fe...
#387 - Paige Harden - Are Human Genetics An Unfair Lottery?
21 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Kathryn Paige Harden is a psychologist and behavioural geneticist, Professor of Psychology at the University of Texas and an author. The goal of socia...
#386 - Daniel Sloss - How To Stop Hating Your Love Life
18 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Daniel Sloss is a comedian, podcaster & now an author. Everyone you hate is going to die. But so is everyone you love. And so are you. Before that hap...
#385 - Gurwinder Bhogal - 15 Mental Models To Understand Psychology
16 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Gurwinder Bhogal is a programmer and a writer. I got tagged in a monstrous thread of Gurwinder's on Twitter exploring human nature, cognitive biases, ...
#384 - Zack Telander - The Female Orgasm, CrossFit & Vasectomies
14 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Zack Telander is a weightlifter, coach & YouTuber. ZT joins me to talk about the world's most pressing issues like whether men should be forced to get...
#383 - Robert Greene - 12 Laws Of Power & Human Nature
11 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Robert Greene is an author and historian. Many people want and need power in life, but almost none of us admit it. Robert's new book compiles 366 of h...
#382 - Charles Eisenstein - Why Is The Climate Debate Such A Mess?
09 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Charles Eisenstein is a public speaker and author specialising in the ecology movement. The climate debate is chaos. Activists and skeptics can't talk...
#381 - General Stanley McChrystal - Military Strategies For Dealing With Risk
07 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Stanley McChrystal is a retired four-star general, the former commander of the US and International Security Assistance Forces in Afghanistan, a CEO a...
#380 - Dan Jones - Is Genghis Khan Harder Than Jocko Willink?
04 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Dan Jones is a historian, TV presenter and an author. Dan took a break from walking about great British castles to write a book about the 1000 years o...
#379 - Rupert Sheldrake - Does Nature Have A Hidden Memory?
02 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Rupert Sheldrake PhD is a biologist and author best known for his hypothesis of Morphic Resonance. Morphic Resonance is the idea of mysterious telepat...
#378 - Ryan Holiday - Finding Courage & Overcoming Fear
30 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Ryan Holiday is a podcaster, marketer and an author. Ryan's next series of books are on the four cardinal virtues of the Stoics with courage being the...
#377 - Brad Stulberg - 6 Principles To Stop Feeling So Frantic
27 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Brad Stulberg is an expert in peak performance, a coach and an author. The pressure we put on ourselves to achieve can be intense. But what is the poi...
#376 - Beau Lotto - The Neuroscience Of Awe, Distraction and Anxiety
25 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Beau Lotto is is a professor of Neuroscience at the University of London and an author. Beau is the founder of the Lab Of Misfits which he describes a...
#375 - Aubrey Marcus - Succeeding In Life, Business & Marriage
23 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Aubrey Marcus is a podcaster, author and founder. Aubrey just sold his company Onnit to Unilever for a huge undisclosed amount and he just got married...
#374 - Will Storr - How To Play The Status Game
20 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Will Storr is an award winning author and journalist. Status is the original human currency. Prestige, renown, respect and admiration are all sought a...
#373 - Patrick Moore - Greenpeace's Ex-President - Is Climate Change A Hoax?
18 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Patrick Moore is the Co-Founder & Ex-President of Greenpeace and an author. Climate change has been at the forefront of political, cultural and social...
#372 - Zack Telander - Elon Musk, Texas & Men Leaving College
16 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Zack Telander is a weightlifter, coach & YouTuber. ZT joins me to talk about the world's most pressing issues like why Elon Musk's silence is violence...
#371 - Ollie Marchon - Identity Change & Personal Growth
13 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Ollie Marchon is a coach, Nike Master Trainer and business owner. The last year has caused everyone to ask some big questions about life direction. Ch...
#370 - James Bloodworth - Understanding The Modern Dating Economy
11 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
James Bloodworth is a journalist, podcaster and an author. The modern dating market is a mess. From polyamory to OnlyFans, Tinder to Trad Wives. No on...
#369 - Mark Williams-Thomas - The Story Of Exposing Jimmy Savile
09 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Mark Williams-Thomas is an investigative journalist, an author and former police detective. True crime documentaries are everywhere, and you've probab...
#368 - Unjaded Jade - How To Study For Any Exam
06 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Jade Bowler is a YouTuber and an author. It's weird that we spend the first 18 years of our lives desperately trying to study and revise for exams, bu...
#367 - Dr Dan Engle - How MDMA Is Transforming Mental Health
04 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Dr. Dan Engle is an MD, the Founder and Medical Director of Kuya Institute for Transformational Medicine and an author. For the last 50 years, MDMA ha...
#366 - Dr Clay Routledge - A Psychologist's Tips To Find Meaning
02 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Dr Clay Routledge is a Professor of Management at North Dakota State University and an author. How to find meaning in life is a question that's been g...
#365 - Oliver Burkeman - How To Properly Manage Your Time
30 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Oliver Burkeman is a journalist and an author. Time is something we all wish we had more of and tons of productivity gurus have proposed strategies to...
#364 - Stuart Russell - The Terrifying Problem Of AI Control
28 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Stuart Russell is a Professor of Computer Science at the University of California and an author. Programming machines to do what we want them to is a ...
#363 - Naama Kates - Investigating The Incel Community
26 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Naama Kates is a writer, producer and creator of the Incel Podcast. The world of involuntary celibates continues to be thrust into the public limeligh...
#362 - James Smith - Dating, Finances & Happiness
23 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
James Smith is a PT and not a life coach. It's a weird time to be alive. The rules are completely out of the window for dating, finding a balance betw...
#361 - Darren Grimes - What The Right Is Getting Wrong
21 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Darren Grimes is a political commentator and a YouTuber. Conservatism might be the least sexy political viewpoint there is. The righthand side of the ...
#360 - Incels, Afghanistan & Apple's Privacy Blunder
19 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Jonny & Yusef join me today as we discuss recent news stories including why breastfeeding now needs recategorising to be more inclusive, how being inj...
#359 - Stephen Davis - The Secrets Of British Airways Flight 149
16 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Stephen Davis is an investigative reporter and an author. On August 1st 1990, a British Airways flight departed London for Kuwait, on board were nearl...
#358 - Dr Samantha Boardman - Positive Psychology's Lessons For Coping With Stress
14 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Dr Samantha Boardman is a psychiatrist and an author. Divorces, bankruptcies and moving house are major stresses. But what about the micro-stressors w...
#357 - Christopher Mason - A 500-Year Plan To Reach Other Worlds
12 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Christopher Mason is a Professor at Weill Cornell Medicine, founding Directors of the WorldQuant Initiative for Quantitative Prediction and an author....
#356 - Yeonmi Park - What It's Truly Like Living In North Korea
09 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Yeonmi Park is a North Korean defector, an author and a YouTuber. North Korea is the most shrouded, dictatorial and walled-off nation on earth. The on...
#355 - Andrew Gold - Exorcisms, Rockstar Priests & Dangerous Taboos
07 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Andrew Gold is a documentary maker and podcaster. In the depths of the Buenos Aires suburbs is a priest who is warding off vampires, levitating follow...
#354 - Rich Diviney - Perform Like A Navy Seal
05 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Rich Diviney is a retired Navy SEAL Commander and an author. The Navy Seals are one of the most hardened military groups in the world. During 13 tours...
#353 - Robert Plomin - How Do Genes Influence Our Behaviour?
02 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Robert Plomin, is a psychologist, geneticist and an author. Separating the influence of nature and nurture is something everyone considers. Robert is ...
#352 - Ben Aldridge - How To Be Comfortable Being Uncomfortable
31 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Ben Aldridge is an author, musician and teacher. After finding himself increasingly anxious and suffering regular panic attacks, Ben purposefully spen...
#351 - Stephen McGinty - The World's Deepest Submarine Rescue
29 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Stephen McGinty is an author, journalist and documentary producer. In 1973, two British men, Roger Chapman & Roger Mallinson were 1500ft below the sur...
#350 - James Nestor - Change Your Breath, Change Your Life
26 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
James Nestor is a journalist and an author. We get more energy from our breath than we do from food or hydration or sleep. And yet most people have ne...
#349 - Rupert Spira - Enlightenment, Happiness & Non-Duality
24 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Rupert Spira a teacher of the Non-Dualism Direct Path, an author and a potter. Non-dualism is a state of consciousness that many contemplative practit...
#348 - Daniel Schmachtenberger - Building Better Sensemaking
22 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Daniel Schmachtenberger is a founding member of The Consilience Project and works in preventing global catastrophic risk. Having accurate sensemaking ...
#347 - Danny Trejo - The Most Killed Man In Hollywood
19 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Danny Trejo is an actor and restaurateur. Danny is one of the most recognisable faces in Hollywood history. He's just written a new memoir about his l...
#346 - Rob Reid - How To Avoid Destroying Humanity
15 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Rob Reid is an entrepreneur, podcaster and an author. The last 15 months have been a terrifying taster of just what a global crisis is like, except it...
#345 - Ryan Long - Annihilating The Culture
12 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Ryan Long is a comedian, director and podcaster. What do Whiteclaw, Elon Musk, Andrew Cuomo's daughter's sexuality, Juule, OnlyFans, Dan Bilzarian, Jo...
#344 - Luke Burgis - Mimetic Desire: Why Do We Want?
08 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Luke Burgis is an entrepreneur and author. We feel like we are in charge of our wants. Like we're the creator of our desires. But Rene Girard's theory...
#343 - Dr David Sinclair - Defeating Ageing & Living Longer
05 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Dr David Sinclair is a Professor in the Department of Genetics at Harvard Medical School and co-Director of the Paul Glenn Centre for the Biological M...
#342 - Jim Poole - The Neuroscience Of Stress
03 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Jim Poole is the President and CEO of Solace Lifesciences. The last year has been one of the most stressful in memory, add on top our always-on techno...
#341 - Life Hacks 205
01 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Jonny & Yusef from Propane Fitness join me for another Life Hacks episode. Sit back & enjoy as we run through our favourite tools, apps, websites, str...
#340 - Mark Manson - 11 Uncomfortable Truths About Life
28 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Mark Manson is an author and blogger. Mark is the king of telling people things they don't want to hear, but need to hear. I couldn't bring him on wit...
#339 - Jeremy McDermott - Hunting An Invisible Drug Lord
26 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Jeremy McDermott is an investigative reporter and the Director of Insight Crime. Modern drug lords in South America learned that anonymity is a better...
#338 - Robert Wright - Psychology, Aliens & Averting The Apocalypse
24 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Robert Wright is President of the Nonzero Foundation, an author and Visiting Professor of Science and Religion at Union Theological Seminary in New Yo...
#337 - 200k Q&A - Jordan Peterson, Bitcoin & Harsh Truths
21 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
I hit 200k Subscribers on YouTube!! To celebrate I asked for questions on Instagram and YouTube. Yet again I was blown away by how interesting, challe...
#336 - Richard Lang - What It Feels Like To Have No Head
19 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Richard Lang is the Co-ordinator of the Shollond Trust, a UK charity focussed on sharing the Headless Way. If you see a person from 6 feet away, they'...
#335 - Nicole Arbour - Dating, Haters & Mental Health
17 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Nicole Arbour is a comedian and YouTuber. Nicole has been through her fair share of controversy, so what insights has she gained from a decade of publ...
#334 - Shane Parrish - Mental Models, Good Decisions & Better Content
14 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Shane Parrish is the Founder of Farnam Street, an ex-Canadian Intelligence Agency Operative and an author. Farnam Street is one of the best blogs on t...
#333 - Chris Walsh - How Does The Cannabis Industry Work?
12 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Chris Walsh is the CEO and President of Marijuana Business Daily and an industry trend analyst. People are claiming that cannabis will be the next gol...
#332 - Julia Galef - Learn To Improve Your Decision Making
10 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Julia Galef is the co-founder of the Center for Applied Rationality, a podcaster and an author. Boris Johnson’s former chief adviser Dominic Cumming...
#331 - Michael Knowles - The Problem With Political Correctness
07 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Michael Knowles is a political commentator, podcaster, and an author. Ostensibly, political correctness is the right thing to do if you're a responsi...
#330 - Theo Priestley & Bronwyn Williams - What Will The Future Look Like?
05 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Theo Priestley and Bronwyn Jones are futurists, trend analysts and authors. The future is supposed to be ours to choose, but who is educated enough to...
#329 - Michael Malice - Is Anarchy The Answer?
03 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Michael Malice is an author, political commentator & podcaster. No matter your perspective, politics isn't working very well at the moment. The world ...
#328 - Jack Butcher - Visualising Value & Constant Creativity
31 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Jack Butcher is a designer, entrepreneur and the founder of Visualize Value. Jack has gone from being a normal agency designer to becoming the one-man...
#327 - Peter Crone - Defeat Your Limiting Beliefs
29 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Peter Crone is a performance coach to athletes, professionals and celebrities. The beliefs and subconscious narratives we hold shape our behaviour, he...
#326 - Jim O'Shaughnessy - Surviving The Great Reshuffle
27 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Jim O'Shaughnessy is an investor and the founder, Chairman, and Chief Investment Officer of O'Shaughnessy Asset Management. Time, space and geography ...
#325 - Lauren Johnson - The Mindset Secrets Of Elite Athletes
24 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Lauren Johnson is the New York Yankees ex-Performance Psychologist and a mental toughness expert. We all have a lot to learn from people who are perfo...
#324 - Alex Epstein - Can Fossil Fuels Save The World?
22 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Alex Epstein is an energy theorist, the founder and president of the Center for Industrial Progress and an author. During any discussion about fossil ...
#323 - Michio Kaku - Black Holes, Big Bangs & Quantum Theory
20 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Michio Kaku is the Professor of Theoretical Physics in the City College of New York, a futurist and an author. What happened before the big bang? Is t...
#322 - Mohamedou Ould Slahi - Surviving 14 Years In Guantanamo Bay
17 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Mohamedou Ould Slahi is the subject of the film The Mauritanian and has been called "the most tortured man in Guantanamo Bay". Mohamedou lived for 14 ...
#321 - Dr Alexander Lee - The Story Behind Machiavelli's Philosophy
15 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Alexander Lee is a renaissance historian at the University of Warwick and an author. Niccolo Machiavelli is one of the most famous political philosoph...
#320 - Robb Wolf - Eat, Sleep & Train Like Your Ancestors
13 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Robb Wolf is a former research biochemist and one of the world’s leading experts in Paleolithic Nutrition and Ancestral Health. The world which our ...
#319 - David Buss - The Hidden Psychology Of Sexual Conflict
10 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
David Buss is one of the founders of the field of Evolutionary Psychology, Professor of Psychology at the University of Texas and an author. The topic...
#318 - Steven Laureys - The Neuroscience Of Meditation
08 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Steven Laureys is a neurologist, Professor of Neurology & Director at Coma Science Group and an author. Meditation and mindfulness practise has gained...
#317 - Cal Newport - How To Master Your Email Overload
06 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Cal Newport is an associate professor of computer science at Georgetown University and an author. Email has changed the way we collaborate and work. F...
#316 - Steven Dudley - MS-13: America's Most Notorious Gang
03 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Steven Dudley is the Director of InSight Crime, a crime & public security reporter and an author. MS-13 are one of the best known gangs in the world. ...
#315 - Melody Wilding - Succeed If You're Empathetic & Driven
01 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Melody Wilding is an executive coach and an author. Being a driven but sensitive individual is a fairly interesting blend. You have all the desire for...
#314 - Greg McKeown - How To Make Life Effortless
29 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Greg McKeown is a public speaker, leadership & business strategist and an author. Is the toughest path always the right one? Is the more important a t...