The School of Greatness

1034 A Guide to Financial Freedom & Your Highest Potential w/One of the World’s Richest People: Charles Koch

18 Nov 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Each of us can make a big difference if we believe in people.”Today’s guest is one of the richest people in the world and CEO and chairman of o...

1033 Unlock Self-Confidence, Heal Trauma & Make Money as an Artist w/Pulitzer Prize Winner Jericho Brown

16 Nov 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“You have to do what you feel like getting up early to do, or what you feel like staying up late to do.”On today's podcast Lewis is joined by Puli...

1032 The Power of Service

13 Nov 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Serve people based on your values, your passions, and the impacts you want to create.”Sometimes we forget why we're really here on this planet, a...

1031 The Science of Intermittent Fasting (Foods To Live Longer & Reverse Type 2 Diabetes) w/Jason Fung

11 Nov 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“There’s so much suffering in the world that’s not necessary if people had the right understanding of our bodies.”This is the second part to L...

1030 How To Prevent Cancer With Your Food & Fasting w/Jason Fung

09 Nov 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“The secret to managing our health is not more surgery or more medicine, it’s less.”Physician, author, and researcher, Dr. Jason Fung joins Lewi...

1029 The 3 Steps to Finding Opportunity

06 Nov 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“An opportunity can be in a new person that you meet, it can be a problem to solve, or the solution to something you’ve been struggling with for a...

1028 Mental Health + Motherhood Challenges & The Dangers of Fame & Success w/Rachel Platten

04 Nov 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“I wasn’t supposed to be another pop star if I was going to lose the truth and the light in me.”On today's podcast, Emmy Award winner, author, a...

1027 Habits of Success for Creatives, Artists & Entrepreneurs w/Seth Godin

02 Nov 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Seeking reassurance is distracting you from doing a better job of what you set out to do in the first place.”Seth Godin is the author of 19 bests...

1026 How to Create Your Own Luck

30 Oct 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“You never know who you’ll meet and what you’ll find by trying new things.”Sometimes it can feel like your dreams are only attainable with the...

1025 Processing Pain, Losing 250+ Pounds & Dissecting Trauma w/Actor Ethan Suplee

28 Oct 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“I could create this other identity that would distract people from how fat I am, and talking about that, or poking fun at me.”Ethan Suplee has st...

1024 Robert Greene: The Positive Side of Human MANIPULATION (The #1 Skill for SUCCESS)

26 Oct 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“I push past my limits. I do things that I’m not supposed to do. I take hikes even though I have to hold on to somebody to do it. People think I’...

5 Things YOU MUST Eliminate From Your Life

23 Oct 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“It’s hard to be positive in a negative environment.”On today's 5-minute Friday, Lewis reflects and expands on the ideas that were shared in his...

1022 Matthew McConaughey: Keys to Success, Making it in Hollywood & Mastering Yourself

20 Oct 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Are you putting out something today, in your resumé of life, that is going to write your eulogy after you’re gone, which is going to introduce y...

1021 How to Connect with Presidents, Royalty & World-Class Celebrities w/Terrence J

18 Oct 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Be specific to who you are and don’t worry about trying to please everybody. You’re not going to be able to please everybody!”On today's podc...

4 Ways to Stay Positive When You Feel Overwhelmed

16 Oct 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“We can’t always give a hundred percent to everything all at once.”On today's 5-Minute Friday, Lewis lays out four techniques that can keep you ...

1019 Build a Global Community, Leverage Viral Video & Change Lives w/Zach King

14 Oct 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“It’s not about these surface-level achievements, it’s about being a person who’s putting good into the world.”Master of digital trickery an...

1018 The Spiritual Guide to Inner Peace, Mastering Grief & Understanding God w/Rob Bell

12 Oct 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Consciousness is the great mystery at the heart of the human experience and it’s the endless black box for science.”Former pastor, speaker, and...

5 Keys to Lasting Love

09 Oct 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“If you haven't worked out the past, then you'll be carrying it with you in the present.”On today's 5-minute Friday, Lewis goes over the five secr...

1016 The Science of a Success Mindset with Neuroscientist Andrew Huberman

07 Oct 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“I think gratitude is wonderful, it resets the system so that you can be in pursuit.”In part two of Lewis' interview with neuroscientist and Stanf...

1015 Hack Your Brain for Unlimited Potential w/Andrew Huberman

05 Oct 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“We know that when the mind isn’t where we want it to be, we need to use the body to intervene.”Stanford University professor Andrew Huberman, P...

1014 The Secret to Manifesting Abundance

02 Oct 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“When we are grateful, we attract more things to be grateful for in our life!”On today's 5-minute Friday, Lewis lets you in on two secrets of an a...

1013 Overcome Shame, Process Pain & Maximize Mental Health w/Lori Gottlieb

30 Sep 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“If we don’t rewrite our story, we relive our story.”Lori Gottlieb is a psychotherapist and the author of "Maybe You Should Talk to Someone." In...

1012 Paris Hilton: Dangers of Fame, Building an Empire & Healing Trauma

28 Sep 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“It’s exhausting having to pretend to be this Barbie Doll who has no brain all day long, when in the back of my mind I know exactly what’s happe...

1011 Do This Exercise to Find Your Purpose

25 Sep 2020

Contributed by Lukas

On today's 5-minute Friday, we wanted to revisit a process Lewis learned from Dr. Ivan Joseph, a sports psychologist and high-performance coach. This ...

1010 Healing, Forgiveness & Finding Freedom w/Holocaust Survivor Dr. Edith Eger

23 Sep 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“I’m not a victim. I was victimized. It’s not my identity. It’s what was done to me.”Dr. Edith Eger is a Holocaust survivor, clinical psycho...

1009 Pursuing Happiness w/Ravi Patel

21 Sep 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Principles only serve you if they’re serving you. And more often than not we’re principled at our own expense.”Actor and documentarian Ravi P...

1008 How to Stay Calm in the Midst of Chaos

18 Sep 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Give yourself permission for discomfort.”On today's 5-minute Friday, Lewis details a five-step process to help you stay in control in moments of ...

1007 An Entrepreneur’s Guide to Success w/Guy Raz

16 Sep 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Entrepreneurship isn’t about the money, it’s about a sense of purpose.”Whether you're a successful longtime entrepreneur or just considering ...

1006 The Positive Side of Stress & Science of Self-Control w/Kelly McGonigal

14 Sep 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“There are ways of thinking about stress that can make your body’s response to it healthier.”Stanford University psychologist Kelly McGonigal, P...

1005 Be Patient, Not Perfect

11 Sep 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence." - Vince LombardiOn today's 5-minute Friday, Lewis unpacks the dang...

1004 How to Stop Aging (Can Humans Become Immortal?) w/Dr. David Sinclair

09 Sep 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Maybe if we are able to upload ourselves somehow or rebuild ourselves from scratch, that’s immortality.”Dr. David Sinclair, a Harvard geneticis...

1003 Jay Shetty: Mindset Habits for Happiness, and Thinking Like a Monk

07 Sep 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“What movement does for the body, stillness does for the mind.”Lewis sits down with the incomparable Jay Shetty to discuss how to craft your life ...

1002 My 3 Truths + Definition of Greatness

04 Sep 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"The unexamined life is not worth living" - SocratesOn today's inspiring 5-minute Friday, Lewis shares his definition of greatness, as well as his thr...

1001 Lessons on Greatness, Growth, and Healing w/Kobe Bryant, Preethaji, & More

02 Sep 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Face what’s difficult. Don’t run away from it. Use failure as a teacher.”On Part II of our big 1,000th Episode Special, Lewis continues to re...

Episode 1,000: A Journey to Greatness (This Will INSPIRE You!)

31 Aug 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“My definition of greatness is still evolving, but I have come to grasp a certain set of principles, habits, routines, thought-processes, and action...

999 Why You're Afraid of Success (and How to Overcome That Fear)

28 Aug 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Don’t miss the moment because you’re thinking about everything that comes with it.”We all want to be successful, but many of us are actually ...

998 Turn Passion Into Profit (The Psychology of Money) w/Adam Davidson

26 Aug 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Marriage is hard, but I think business partnerships are really really hard.”Lewis chats with Adam Davidson, award-winning business journalist and...

997 Joe Dispenza on 3 Secrets to Unlock the POWER of Your Mind

24 Aug 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“When you're no longer identifying with your body, your environment, and time, that’s the moment you’re pure consciousness.”Lewis is joined by...

996 This Evening Routine Will Transform Your Life

21 Aug 2020

Contributed by Lukas

On today's 5-minute Friday, Lewis details a simple evening routine that will help you wake up feeling refreshed and hit the ground running the next da...

995 Self-Image, Intimacy, and the Dangers of Comedy w/Nikki Glaser

19 Aug 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"I just want to be extraordinary. I don't want to be average. I don't want to be forgotten. I don't want to be not seen. Because I felt that way so mu...

994 Secrets of Attraction, Dangers of Sex, and Keys to Finding THE ONE w/Stephan Speaks

17 Aug 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"Society has brainwashed us to believe that love and identifying it takes time. That’s a lie."Lewis is joined by relationship expert Stephan Labossi...

993 Learn to Love Yourself (the BLUEPRINT to Acceptance)

14 Aug 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Nothing else matters if you don’t find a way to love yourself for who you are.”On today's 5-minute Friday, Lewis discusses the importance of ac...

992 Money Mindset and How to Win in Business w/Patrick Bet-David

12 Aug 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“You’re one contact away from your life changing. If you start valuing your contacts like a book of business, everything changes.”Lewis is joine...

991 Live Longer and Hack Your Health w/Dr. Steven Gundry

10 Aug 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“We missed the fact that there was this symbiotic, sentient being that was not only living within us, but was directing us.”Lewis sits down with a...

990 The 6 Steps to Happiness, Guaranteed

07 Aug 2020

Contributed by Lukas

On today's 5-minute Friday, Lewis reflects on one of his favorite guests ever: Dr. Laurie Santos, a Yale Psychology Professor and an expert on happine...

989 A Mental Health Toolkit: Defeat Loneliness & Learn to Love Yourself w/Kati Morton

05 Aug 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“With great vulnerability comes great connection and courage.”Lewis chats with Kati Morton, a clinical psychologist, licensed marriage and family ...

988 The Morning Routine of Millionaires, Superstars & History’s Greatest Geniuses w/Robin Sharma

03 Aug 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Genius is less about genetics and much more about your daily habits.”Lewis is joined by leadership expert and bestselling author Robin Sharma to ...

987 Relationships in Quarantine: Finding Love, and Thriving

31 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

On today's 5-minute Friday, Lewis lets us peek inside his heart and home, unpacking the last 6 months of a challenging yet deeply rewarding relationsh...

986 Fighting Child Sex Slavery w/Tim Ballard

29 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“If everybody would focus focus focus on child crimes, we could end it. It’s not going to be governments alone. It’s going to be people getting ...

985 How to Read People and Make Winning Decisions w/Maria Konnikova

27 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“If you pick the easy route, then you’re picking it to give yourself an out.”Lewis is joined by New York Times bestselling author and Psychology...

984 If You're Feeling STUCK... Listen to This

24 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

On today's 5-minute Friday, Lewis realizes that the 2020 Tokyo Olympics were supposed to start this week, which prompts him to reflect on those whose ...

983 Overcoming Negative Self-Talk & Building Success Habits w/Olympic Gold Medalist Kerri Walsh Jennings

22 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"The process is a beautiful thing, and I love it. I’ve just forgotten that I love it."Lewis is joined by three-time Olympic gold medalist Kerri Wals...

982 The Science of Self-Confidence (How to Command Your Mind) w/Dr. Ivan Joseph

20 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"The tiniest step is the one that moves us toward our goal."Lewis is joined by Dr. Ivan Joseph, a sports psychologist and high-performance coach, to d...

981 The 4 Ways to Master Your Mind During Tough Times

17 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

On today's 5-minute Friday, Lewis acknowledges the tough moment we're facing in the world and gives actionable advice on how to use this time to set y...

980 Decoding Greatness: Lessons from LeBron James, Tom Brady, Simone Biles, and More

15 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"Genius recognizes genius"Lewis is joined by filmmaker Gotham Chopra, who has worked closely on projects with LeBron James, Tom Brady, Simone Biles, K...

979 Lisa Nichols: How to Find Your Life's Purpose and Embrace Your Imperfections

13 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"You can’t have a life in the castle with a mindset in the doghouse."Lewis is joined by Lisa Nichols, one of the world's most successful motivationa...

978 The Secret to Building Bulletproof Confidence

10 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

On today's 5-minute Friday, Lewis discusses the School of Greatness team's new wellness goals, and why keeping your word to yourself is the most impor...

977 Embracing Discomfort and Chasing Your Dreams with Luvvie Ajayi Jones

08 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"I think oftentimes we deny our gifts, deny our purpose, because we’re afraid of what can come with it."Lewis is joined by author, speaker, and prof...

976 How to Stop Choking Under Pressure with Psychologist Sian Beilock

06 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"When you get really good at something, you can mess yourself up by thinking too much."Lewis is joined by Sian Beilock, the President of Barnard of Co...

975 Keep a Growth Mindset When Your Life Is on "Hold"

03 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

On today's 5-minute Friday, we take stock of the first half of 2020. Although it's been a difficult year, Lewis reminds us that challenges can be oppo...

974 Laverne Cox on Healing Trauma, Owning Your Truth, and Being Transgender in America

01 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"It’s important to hold space for the suffering and acknowledge it, but it can’t be all there is."Lewis is joined by Emmy Award-nominated actress ...

973 Creativity Hacks and Building Mass Influence with Hank Green

29 Jun 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Curiosity is the only way we bridge gaps, the only way we build knowledge.”Lewis is joined by #1 New York Times best-selling author, multi-billio...

972 Why Money and Success Aren't Always the Answer

26 Jun 2020

Contributed by Lukas

On today's 5-minute Friday, Lewis shares an unsettling experience he had last week and meditates on the complicated relationship between wealth, succe...

971 Les Brown: How to Defeat a Negative Mindset and Why You Were Born to WIN

24 Jun 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"Someone’s opinion of you does not have to become your reality."Lewis chats with motivational speaking icon Les Brown to discuss how to define your ...

970 Mel Robbins: The “Secret” Mindset Habit to Building Confidence and Overcoming Scarcity

22 Jun 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“When the world feels upside down, you always have the power to make it right.”Lewis sits down with motivational speaker, author, and old friend M...

969 Commemorating Juneteeth & Remembering We Still Have Work to Do

19 Jun 2020

Contributed by Lukas

On today's 5-minute Friday, Lewis acknowledges Juneteenth, America's oldest national holiday commemorating the end of slavery. Then Reverend Michael B...

968 Dangerous Health Myths, New COVID-19 Facts, and How to Heal Yourself with Doctor Mike

17 Jun 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"It’s mindbody. There’s no distinction between the two. It’s not mind and body. It’s not mind-body. It’s mindbody."Lewis talks health with f...

967 A Scientific Guide to Living Longer, Feeling Happier, & Eating Healthier with Dr. Rhonda Patrick

15 Jun 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"Psychological stress has a pretty profound effect on the immune system."Lewis is joined by Dr. Rhonda Patrick, a biomedical science PhD, to discuss h...

966 4 Self-Care Tips You Need Right Now

12 Jun 2020

Contributed by Lukas

On today's 5-minute Friday, Lewis discusses the importance of taking care of yourself—physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually—especiall...

965 Sadhguru on Creating Happiness & Ending Personal Suffering

10 Jun 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"If you are constantly stepping into unfamiliar situations in your life, that means you are growing at a rapid pace."Lewis sits down with influential ...

964 NFL Star Michael Bennett: Activism, Racism in Sports, & Making a Difference

08 Jun 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"It’s time for us to put our titles down and acknowledge that we’re all human beings."Lewis is joined by Super Bowl Champion Michael Bennett to di...

963 Uncomfortable Conversations and the Value of Truly Listening

05 Jun 2020

Contributed by Lukas

On today's 5-Minute Friday, Lewis discusses what he's been meditating on during this challenging and eye-opening week in America: being a good listene...

962 Racism, White Privilege, and Healing America with Reverend Michael Beckwith

03 Jun 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"I am here to contribute to a kind and just global society. Let me be an instrument of peace."As thousands around America continue to protest racial i...

961 The 5 Keys to Long-Term Happiness and Prosperity with Dr. Laurie Santos

01 Jun 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Focusing on others will make you happier than focusing on yourself.”Lewis is joined by Dr. Laurie Santos, a Professor of Psychology at Yale Unive...

960 You'd Be Shocked to Find That These Foods Are Killing You

29 May 2020

Contributed by Lukas

On today's 5-Minute Friday, Lewis revisits one of his most impactful interviews with health expert Dr. Steven Gundry, who has carefully studied what w...

959 How to Deal with Backlash, Find the Truth, and Live in Gratitude with Dave Rubin

27 May 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“If you dip your toe in the pool, you might find out the pool is not that cold.”Lewis is joined by Dave Rubin, host of the Rubin Report and author...

958 Dan Harris on Conquering Fear and Becoming 10% Happier Everyday

25 May 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"The quality of your relationships say a lot about the quality of your life.”Lewis is joined by TV anchor and #1 New York Times bestselling author D...

957 3 Life Lessons from Kevin Hart

22 May 2020

Contributed by Lukas

In this special 5-Minute Friday episode, Lewis reveals the three biggest takeaways from his impactful Kevin Hart interview this week. Lewis sat down w...

956 Kevin Hart on His Secrets to Success and Building an Empire

21 May 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"You have to experience some down to know why you’re getting up."This week, Lewis sits down with Kevin Hart to talk about his path to superstardom, ...

955 Gary Vaynerchuk on Mindset, Family and The Future of Business

18 May 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Leaning into humility and gratitude will be the springboard to everything you want.”Gary Vaynerchuk is the chairman of VaynerX, a modern-day medi...

954 Build a Reputation with Yourself

15 May 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“If you’re constantly being influenced and moved by what other people think about you, it means there’s a deficiency in what you think about you...

953 Jay Shetty: Train Your Mind for Peace and Purpose Everyday

13 May 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“I am what I think you think I am.”QUESTIONSWhy is identity something you focus on? (2:15)How do we listen to that inner voice? (7:20)How do we ma...

952 Glennon Doyle: Live Untamed and Unapologetic In Business and Life

11 May 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Be what you were before the world told you what to be.”QUESTIONSWhat’s the thing you are the least proud of and most proud of in your relations...

951 Free Your Body from the Past

08 May 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“When the heart is healed, everybody gets the signal, the body is out of the past.”I’ve got an expert and a favorite guest on the The School of ...

950 Bob Proctor on The Science of Success (SECRETS TO UNLOCK YOUR MIND)

06 May 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“2% of the people think, 3% think they think and 95% would rather die than think.”QUESTIONSHow do you get people to get back to their most abundan...

949 Change Your Mind to Attract Love, Abundance and Wealth with Marisa Peer

04 May 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Tell yourself a better lie, you’ll live a better life.”QUESTIONSHow do we heal from decades of thinking negatively? (1:16)How do we change our ...

948 Play to Your Natural Advantages

01 May 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“When you really learn to appreciate fresh foods, things can taste so much better than you’re used to.”I talked about my weight loss experience ...

947 Upgrade Your Brain, Learn Anything Faster and Become Limitless with Jim Kwik

29 Apr 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Say no to good to say yes to great.”QUESTIONSHow do we learn with the dominant hand rather than the opposite hand? (6:30)What are the two questio...

946 Sara Blakely and Jesse Itzler on Marriage, Money and Entrepreneur Mindset

27 Apr 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Trust the seeds you’ve planted.”QUESTIONSWhat have you learned about each other during the quarantine? (1:21)How do you stay humble in success?...

945 Become an Accidental Apprentice

24 Apr 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Acknowledge the people around you right now and how you can get the most out of them.”Jeff Goins is a popular blogger and author. In our conversa...

944 Matthew Hussey: Breakup, Healing, and Dating Advice During Isolation

22 Apr 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Are you in love with a person's presence or absence?”QUESTIONSWhat is your energy around managing relationships during this difficult time? (2:42...

943 Robert Kiyosaki: How to Become Wealthy in a Down Economy (The Rich Dad Poor Dad Guide)

20 Apr 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Some people are looking for the challenge, some are looking for security.”QUESTIONSWhat were some wake moments for you as an entrepreneur? (1:25)...

942 Work Like An Elite Athlete

17 Apr 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“Done is better than perfect.”Than has taught me so much over the years about how to build a successful business and I’ve watched him scale his ...

941 Wim Hof Talks CORONAVIRUS & How To NEVER Get Sick Again

15 Apr 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“When you cleanse from the outside, you automatically cleanse from the inside.”QUESTIONSHow was the experience of being with all the athletes and ...

940 Love, INTIMACY and Relationships During Isolation with DeVon Franklin

13 Apr 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“In a relationship, we expect one season to always be the season.”QUESTIONSHow do we stay connected and loving without hurting each other in these...

939 Become Friends with Fear

10 Apr 2020

Contributed by Lukas

We’ve talked about the upside of dark emotions, how to turn stress into serenity, and now today’s guest, Dr. Lissa Rankin, is coming back on the s...

938 Dave Ramsey: Master Your Money In a Time Of Uncertainty

08 Apr 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“You don’t die from fear.”QUESTIONSWhy is right now in these financially hard times the best time to make money? (1:20)What lessons have you lea...

937 Create Your Side Hustle and Take Control of Your Money with Chris Guillebeau

06 Apr 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“You don’t need permission to do big things.”QUESTIONSHow do we do something in our own backyard that will make us money? (1:00)Why are there no...

936 Special 5-Minute Friday Q&A with Our Listeners

03 Apr 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“You’re going to learn the most about yourself now, in this moment, for the next few months.”QUESTIONSQuestion from Kathy: What is some positivi...

935 Dr. Steven Gundry: The “Healthy” Foods You Should NEVER EAT, Boosting Your Immune System and COVID-19

01 Apr 2020

Contributed by Lukas

“A leaky gut is the cause of all disease.”QUESTIONSWhat are specific ways to heal your heart without surgery? (7:20)What’s the difference betwee...